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<blockquote data-quote="royinidaho" data-source="post: 126487" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>[ QUOTE ]</p><p>Ok guys, trying to decide what to do with my Rem 700 300RUM. <strong>Here's my 2 cents on your subject.</strong></p><p>I was going to go with the 7mm AM, but now am not sure. I built my 300 RUM put a brake on it, trigger job, nightforce and started shooting, but am not getting it to shoot up to my expectations.</p><p><strong>That's the problem with a my personal projects also. I wanted a good shooting 338 and after replacing the Win Mag bbl (getting it very accurate but insufficient velocity for what I wanted) replaced it with a 338 RUM take off bbl. After much testing with 225s &amp; 250s and being unsatisfied with both accuracy and velocity I went to the 300SMK. I finally got the accuracy and somewhat decent velocity. This is after many $ in time and a couple of hundred shots.</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>About the time I finished my factory project my 270 AM arrived. Here's the difference in the process. Bought a can of US 869, got some WC 169s w/195s on the way. Fire formed the cases. Broke in the bbl and sighted in at same time. Asked about BC. Used the number to shoot at several distances. Computer developed the drop chart before I ever went to the range. Shot to verify drop chart. It was spot on. Am ready to take it to the field with confidence to 1113yds and only 36 bullets down the tube. Bottom line is when you get the rifle from one of the rifle smiths here life is a whole lot more simple</strong> </p><p></p><p> I want a carry weight(10-12lbs if possible) 1000-1500yd gun. <strong>A rifle of that weight in a caliber that is sufficient for what you want is not a problem. My AM is right at 12# fully dressed. However with the 30" #7 fluted bbl and a super light stock it is balanced towards the front. A bit top heavy for a carry gun but then it wasn't designed for that purpose. I'll just strap it in the drag bag/ shooting mat and strap that on my shoulders and head up the hill.</strong> I will use this for elk and deer. If I went with the 7mm AM I would shoot the 200gr wildcat's, would those be alright for LR elk? <strong>Ask buffalobob about the 7mm 200gr WC and a 900yd+ 6X6 bull. Even the little 277 195 WC gets to 1K with in excess of 2000 FPE. Short answer: hell yeh they're enough.</strong> Would like to keep barrel length to around 28" Also was wondering about those carbon barrels, if people are having good luck with them?<strong>I'll have to defer to the rifle smiths on this one. However, I've heard nothing but great things about the ABS bbls and expecially the 5R bores. Kirby's got a special rifling arrangement from them that appears promising GG got exceptional velocity out of the 300 SMK with his but he's shooting the 225 NABs. He attributes the good velocity to the bore. And his barrel is short. I think that Shawn's first Edge had a short barrel. Also, the 300SMK at 2700+ in my 26" bbl'd RUM that weighs right at 10# is a no problem shooter for all afternoon, prone. I was kind of skeer'd @ first but after the first shot all of that went away.</strong> </p><p>I was pretty sure about kirby's 7mm AM,<strong>I'm thinking that the 7mmAM is based on the Lapua case and may not be compatible with the REM bolt face???</strong> but now I've been reading about the edge, some good .30's, and I'm just about at ground zero for what to do. </p><p></p><p>I wanted to get this action out soon, so I can get it back sometime in spring if that is an option, so any input would be great.</p><p></p><p>I've got a lot of new Federal 300 rum brass, so I don't know if that would help with the decision at all. <strong>Don't even concern yourself about the 300RUM brass. It will work perfectly in the 270AM. I'll take it all off your hands after you make your decision.</strong> I just don't have a cartridge that really sticks out to me, <strong>I just don't have a cartridge that really sticks out to me, he says. I know whatcha mean. I originally ordered a 224AM but switched to the 270 as I could shoot yotes, deer and elk w/the same rifle. When it arrived I opened the package and my first impression was "It looks just like a rifle. Howbeit a unique and very very well crafted rifle. The real appreciation came when the 3 shot drop chart validation groups out to 500 meters cause jumps for joy and the 1113 yd "fun" shot was observed in the scope AND was spot on, I probably shed a tear, well at least walked a little lighter and I'm sure the grin was one of S-eatin' ones. Once you make your decision you WILL be pleased.</strong> maybe I should just have it rebuilt with the 300 RUM again <strong>Nah!</strong>, but something different sounds fun /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif</p><p></p><p>so once again, any input would be greatly appreciated! <strong>You asked for it..../ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif</strong></p><p></p><p>[/ QUOTE ]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="royinidaho, post: 126487, member: 2011"] [ QUOTE ] Ok guys, trying to decide what to do with my Rem 700 300RUM. [b]Here's my 2 cents on your subject.[/b] I was going to go with the 7mm AM, but now am not sure. I built my 300 RUM put a brake on it, trigger job, nightforce and started shooting, but am not getting it to shoot up to my expectations. [b]That's the problem with a my personal projects also. I wanted a good shooting 338 and after replacing the Win Mag bbl (getting it very accurate but insufficient velocity for what I wanted) replaced it with a 338 RUM take off bbl. After much testing with 225s & 250s and being unsatisfied with both accuracy and velocity I went to the 300SMK. I finally got the accuracy and somewhat decent velocity. This is after many $ in time and a couple of hundred shots.[/b] [b]About the time I finished my factory project my 270 AM arrived. Here's the difference in the process. Bought a can of US 869, got some WC 169s w/195s on the way. Fire formed the cases. Broke in the bbl and sighted in at same time. Asked about BC. Used the number to shoot at several distances. Computer developed the drop chart before I ever went to the range. Shot to verify drop chart. It was spot on. Am ready to take it to the field with confidence to 1113yds and only 36 bullets down the tube. Bottom line is when you get the rifle from one of the rifle smiths here life is a whole lot more simple[/b] I want a carry weight(10-12lbs if possible) 1000-1500yd gun. [b]A rifle of that weight in a caliber that is sufficient for what you want is not a problem. My AM is right at 12# fully dressed. However with the 30" #7 fluted bbl and a super light stock it is balanced towards the front. A bit top heavy for a carry gun but then it wasn't designed for that purpose. I'll just strap it in the drag bag/ shooting mat and strap that on my shoulders and head up the hill.[/b] I will use this for elk and deer. If I went with the 7mm AM I would shoot the 200gr wildcat's, would those be alright for LR elk? [b]Ask buffalobob about the 7mm 200gr WC and a 900yd+ 6X6 bull. Even the little 277 195 WC gets to 1K with in excess of 2000 FPE. Short answer: hell yeh they're enough.[/b] Would like to keep barrel length to around 28" Also was wondering about those carbon barrels, if people are having good luck with them?[b]I'll have to defer to the rifle smiths on this one. However, I've heard nothing but great things about the ABS bbls and expecially the 5R bores. Kirby's got a special rifling arrangement from them that appears promising GG got exceptional velocity out of the 300 SMK with his but he's shooting the 225 NABs. He attributes the good velocity to the bore. And his barrel is short. I think that Shawn's first Edge had a short barrel. Also, the 300SMK at 2700+ in my 26" bbl'd RUM that weighs right at 10# is a no problem shooter for all afternoon, prone. I was kind of skeer'd @ first but after the first shot all of that went away.[/b] I was pretty sure about kirby's 7mm AM,[b]I'm thinking that the 7mmAM is based on the Lapua case and may not be compatible with the REM bolt face???[/b] but now I've been reading about the edge, some good .30's, and I'm just about at ground zero for what to do. I wanted to get this action out soon, so I can get it back sometime in spring if that is an option, so any input would be great. I've got a lot of new Federal 300 rum brass, so I don't know if that would help with the decision at all. [b]Don't even concern yourself about the 300RUM brass. It will work perfectly in the 270AM. I'll take it all off your hands after you make your decision.[/b] I just don't have a cartridge that really sticks out to me, [b]I just don't have a cartridge that really sticks out to me, he says. I know whatcha mean. I originally ordered a 224AM but switched to the 270 as I could shoot yotes, deer and elk w/the same rifle. When it arrived I opened the package and my first impression was "It looks just like a rifle. Howbeit a unique and very very well crafted rifle. The real appreciation came when the 3 shot drop chart validation groups out to 500 meters cause jumps for joy and the 1113 yd "fun" shot was observed in the scope AND was spot on, I probably shed a tear, well at least walked a little lighter and I'm sure the grin was one of S-eatin' ones. Once you make your decision you WILL be pleased.[/b] maybe I should just have it rebuilt with the 300 RUM again [b]Nah![/b], but something different sounds fun [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] so once again, any input would be greatly appreciated! [b]You asked for it....[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img][/b] [/ QUOTE ] [/QUOTE]
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