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<blockquote data-quote="WildRose" data-source="post: 1247584" data-attributes="member: 30902"><p>You are going to have a hard time finding any factory ammo that can provide you the necessary accuracy for shooting game at 1,000yds. If that is your eventual goal you really will need at some point to wrap yourself around the idea of handloading.</p><p></p><p>The 7mm's are a bit light for elk and big bears but with the right bullet put in the right spot should get the job done.</p><p></p><p>Here though is the quandary, is it ever wise to bring "just enough gun to get the job done"? No, that's simply not a logical way to approach it so my advice would be to go with the 300wm or 300 Norma. </p><p></p><p>Personally my "go to" for nearly everything is the 7mm STW but I also shoot both the 300wm and 300 Rum and enjoy both of them.</p><p></p><p>You'd be very hard pressed to beat the performance of the Remington 5R in 300wm. I have the Gen II version which is still stainless but it comes from the factory in a very nice flat black color and with a good stock. Have a gunsmith work over the trigger and bed it (including checking to make sure it's fully floated) and you have a great shooting rig right out of the box. Should you want to do any more upgrading/customizing on it in the future there's an all but completely unlimited amount of aftermarket upgrades available.</p><p></p><p>I also own a half dozen Sendero II's (SF) and while they have all shot pretty well for me overall the only one that gets close to matching the 5R's performance is the .220 Swift which is the same basic rifle as the Sendero but is called the VSSFII instead of Sendero SFII.</p><p></p><p>You can order these through Bud's Gun Shop and while you might find one on special some place a little cheaper if you look long enough and hard enough but not easily.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/719003484/REM+Gen2+Model+700+5R+.300+Winchester+Magnum+24%22" target="_blank">https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/719003484/REM+Gen2+Model+700+5R+.300+Winchester+Magnum+24"</a></p><p></p><p>The other rifle I bought recently that is performing outstanding for me is the Ruger Hawkeye FTW edition. It's a good bit lighter than the Remington and is also shooting exceptionally well for what I have in it.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/719010165/Ruger+47146+Hawkeye+FTW+Hunter,+BA" target="_blank">https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/719010165/Ruger+47146+Hawkeye+FTW+Hunter,+BA</a></p><p></p><p>I bought one of each of these in the last few months in .260 Remington and they are both exceptional rifles at very good prices. Both in fact are performing considerably better than expected even shooting factory ammo.</p><p></p><p>Pair the rifle with a good VX-3I 4.5-14x50 and you'll have a great starter rig at or below your 2,000.00 price.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WildRose, post: 1247584, member: 30902"] You are going to have a hard time finding any factory ammo that can provide you the necessary accuracy for shooting game at 1,000yds. If that is your eventual goal you really will need at some point to wrap yourself around the idea of handloading. The 7mm's are a bit light for elk and big bears but with the right bullet put in the right spot should get the job done. Here though is the quandary, is it ever wise to bring "just enough gun to get the job done"? No, that's simply not a logical way to approach it so my advice would be to go with the 300wm or 300 Norma. Personally my "go to" for nearly everything is the 7mm STW but I also shoot both the 300wm and 300 Rum and enjoy both of them. You'd be very hard pressed to beat the performance of the Remington 5R in 300wm. I have the Gen II version which is still stainless but it comes from the factory in a very nice flat black color and with a good stock. Have a gunsmith work over the trigger and bed it (including checking to make sure it's fully floated) and you have a great shooting rig right out of the box. Should you want to do any more upgrading/customizing on it in the future there's an all but completely unlimited amount of aftermarket upgrades available. I also own a half dozen Sendero II's (SF) and while they have all shot pretty well for me overall the only one that gets close to matching the 5R's performance is the .220 Swift which is the same basic rifle as the Sendero but is called the VSSFII instead of Sendero SFII. You can order these through Bud's Gun Shop and while you might find one on special some place a little cheaper if you look long enough and hard enough but not easily. [url]https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/719003484/REM+Gen2+Model+700+5R+.300+Winchester+Magnum+24%22[/url] The other rifle I bought recently that is performing outstanding for me is the Ruger Hawkeye FTW edition. It's a good bit lighter than the Remington and is also shooting exceptionally well for what I have in it. [url]https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/719010165/Ruger+47146+Hawkeye+FTW+Hunter,+BA[/url] I bought one of each of these in the last few months in .260 Remington and they are both exceptional rifles at very good prices. Both in fact are performing considerably better than expected even shooting factory ammo. Pair the rifle with a good VX-3I 4.5-14x50 and you'll have a great starter rig at or below your 2,000.00 price. [/QUOTE]
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