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<blockquote data-quote="ENCORE" data-source="post: 1300074" data-attributes="member: 33046"><p>Talking in general......... and first, I have no clue about AZ muzz rules.</p><p></p><p>Shooting a muzz is a little different than CF rifles, as it takes time to work up a specific charge/sabot/bullet combination. Most inline rifles are limited to a maximum charge for long range, normally 150grs volume (except BH209, which is 120grs volume). However... <u>long time experienced shooters</u> can over come that by shooting heavier bullets and lower charges. Example: 525gr bullet over 100grs BP.</p><p></p><p>The CVA V2 LR gives no real advantage over a V2. The CVA, T/C and Knight rifles, with near maximum charges, will get you to 300yds using bullets of 290-300grs. Bullet velocity will be approximately 1,300fps +/-, with approximately 1,100fpe +/- (energy). I would imagine that for elk, that's at the minimum velocity/energy. Elk experts will know better than I.</p><p></p><p>The RUM has an advantage over CVA and T/C, with its higher charge capability. The heavier charge comes with a price, weight and recoil. There are three RUM shooters in my home state that are shooting MOA at 300yds, however they are shooting different loads/bullets than Remington recommends. Basically the same bullet and charges shot from the UF Inc. rifles. Just because the RU is capable of extreme charges (200grs), its not necessary to shoot a max load, and sometimes the best accuracy is with a lighter load. The UF rifles are extremely accurate with 180grs.</p><p></p><p>If it were me, an opinion only, I'd opt for the RU over the other rifles. But that's me and I'm already used to the systems.</p><p></p><p>I would suggest, if you intend to shoot 300yds at an animal, its going to take a TON of practice, practice, practice. Remember, the slower heavier bullets are affected much more by wind than a CF bullet. Purchase a higher quality scope and one with a higher variable. To many muzzleloader shooters want to shoot long range accurately with a cheap and/or low variable scope, then don't and blame it on the rifle. You can't hit what you can't see.</p><p></p><p>Just my opinions...... Good luck with your choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ENCORE, post: 1300074, member: 33046"] Talking in general......... and first, I have no clue about AZ muzz rules. Shooting a muzz is a little different than CF rifles, as it takes time to work up a specific charge/sabot/bullet combination. Most inline rifles are limited to a maximum charge for long range, normally 150grs volume (except BH209, which is 120grs volume). However... [U]long time experienced shooters[/U] can over come that by shooting heavier bullets and lower charges. Example: 525gr bullet over 100grs BP. The CVA V2 LR gives no real advantage over a V2. The CVA, T/C and Knight rifles, with near maximum charges, will get you to 300yds using bullets of 290-300grs. Bullet velocity will be approximately 1,300fps +/-, with approximately 1,100fpe +/- (energy). I would imagine that for elk, that's at the minimum velocity/energy. Elk experts will know better than I. The RUM has an advantage over CVA and T/C, with its higher charge capability. The heavier charge comes with a price, weight and recoil. There are three RUM shooters in my home state that are shooting MOA at 300yds, however they are shooting different loads/bullets than Remington recommends. Basically the same bullet and charges shot from the UF Inc. rifles. Just because the RU is capable of extreme charges (200grs), its not necessary to shoot a max load, and sometimes the best accuracy is with a lighter load. The UF rifles are extremely accurate with 180grs. If it were me, an opinion only, I'd opt for the RU over the other rifles. But that's me and I'm already used to the systems. I would suggest, if you intend to shoot 300yds at an animal, its going to take a TON of practice, practice, practice. Remember, the slower heavier bullets are affected much more by wind than a CF bullet. Purchase a higher quality scope and one with a higher variable. To many muzzleloader shooters want to shoot long range accurately with a cheap and/or low variable scope, then don't and blame it on the rifle. You can't hit what you can't see. Just my opinions...... Good luck with your choice. [/QUOTE]
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