I have a brand new Leupold VX II 4-12, Matte, AO with Long Range Duplex Reticle (Ballistics Aiming System). I put it on a gun and then noticed the eye relief is different than my 3.5-10's so took it off and put a 3.5-10 on it. No ring marks but shiny spots where the rings were - hardly noticeable. Reduced to $350 shipped with box and papers. Would also consider a trade for a short action Remington 700 in lighter calibers.