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<blockquote data-quote="bgordon" data-source="post: 42957" data-attributes="member: 519"><p>You made no mention of exactly what position you used to do the shooting.</p><p>I do know that altering anything in your stance or hold can effect the shots in the manner you have mentioned. It is pretty easy to verify for yourself. Take a nice tack driving varmint rig. Most of them are good for 1/2 moa out till the bullet gets blown around. On a nice calm evening, shoot a 5 shot group at 200 using a firm grip on the pistol grip portion of the stock and pull the rifle tight in to you. Try to be really consistent on the amount of pressure placed upon the rifle, but do a nice tight grip. If possible shoot from the prone position with a front rest rather than from a bench. Let the rifle cool and repeat the same test but using as little pressure on the rifle as possible. Using a bipod up front and a rice sock to support the butt, I can normally center the crosshairs andpull the trigger without even touching the rifle at all.</p><p>It might take several sets of doing both these methods but you will find quite a difference in the group center ans well as the size of the groups.</p><p>A loose position one shot and a tight position the next shot will give groups like you have described.</p><p>Even if the problem doesn't go away you will have removed one possible reason.</p><p></p><p>BTW, a rice sock is a superb thing to support the rear of the rifle. You simply take a decently tight weave sock and fill it about half full of rice and tie off the end to give you a rear rest which will stay rock solid and which is usable under widely differing conditions. Until making up a rice bag I used a rear leather rabbit ear bag filled with shot. Too cumbersome and not user friendly. I can shoot just as accurately with a rice bag and much more rapidly. You squeeze the rice bag with your off hand sort of like squeezing a woman's breast. Be gentle and the crosshairs will come right down on target. Military snipers are taught this method and use it at longer yardages than you or I are ever likely to shoot at.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bgordon, post: 42957, member: 519"] You made no mention of exactly what position you used to do the shooting. I do know that altering anything in your stance or hold can effect the shots in the manner you have mentioned. It is pretty easy to verify for yourself. Take a nice tack driving varmint rig. Most of them are good for 1/2 moa out till the bullet gets blown around. On a nice calm evening, shoot a 5 shot group at 200 using a firm grip on the pistol grip portion of the stock and pull the rifle tight in to you. Try to be really consistent on the amount of pressure placed upon the rifle, but do a nice tight grip. If possible shoot from the prone position with a front rest rather than from a bench. Let the rifle cool and repeat the same test but using as little pressure on the rifle as possible. Using a bipod up front and a rice sock to support the butt, I can normally center the crosshairs andpull the trigger without even touching the rifle at all. It might take several sets of doing both these methods but you will find quite a difference in the group center ans well as the size of the groups. A loose position one shot and a tight position the next shot will give groups like you have described. Even if the problem doesn't go away you will have removed one possible reason. BTW, a rice sock is a superb thing to support the rear of the rifle. You simply take a decently tight weave sock and fill it about half full of rice and tie off the end to give you a rear rest which will stay rock solid and which is usable under widely differing conditions. Until making up a rice bag I used a rear leather rabbit ear bag filled with shot. Too cumbersome and not user friendly. I can shoot just as accurately with a rice bag and much more rapidly. You squeeze the rice bag with your off hand sort of like squeezing a woman's breast. Be gentle and the crosshairs will come right down on target. Military snipers are taught this method and use it at longer yardages than you or I are ever likely to shoot at. [/QUOTE]
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