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<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 1319141" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p>A lot of people are doing many different things because of the rules of the match they are competing in. </p><p>I personally don't consider many types of matches Bench Rest just because they shoot off of a bench and use sand bags and a front rest of some type. This type of shooting is normally for score and not for total group size (Precision)</p><p></p><p>The most accurate rifles in the world are rail guns and require the very best ammo to be competitive</p><p></p><p>I have never seen an unlimited bench rest shooter shoot 2 to 3 seconds apart. I have competed in 300 yard rapid fire matches that required 10 shots in 60 seconds with a loading half way through the string. With a bolt rifle you were forced to shoot every 4 seconds or you would not finish. this was position shooting with Iron sites. </p><p></p><p>True precision shooting is a different sport, and I have seen these guys shoot and they were in no hurry and they do there loading at the match. most bring only enough brass for one group at a time </p><p>and it is specially prepared and tested for the best accuracy. they also number the cases for the most consistent group and shoot them in order.</p><p></p><p>When I competed at the long range matches, (1000 to 1200 yards) I chose the method of watching the conditions and waiting for them to be the same before each shot rather that chasing the mirage</p><p>and the wind. We had 20 minutes to fire 20 rounds and sometimes I would use all of it.</p><p></p><p>I loaded 3 to 4 different types of ammo for the matches and only partially full sized for the rapid fire events to assure loading all of the long range precision ammo was loaded as I described earlier to get the most precision from my rifle.</p><p></p><p>I would like to have seen the group size of the lady on the video but they were shooting for score</p><p>and precision groups don't mean much. </p><p></p><p>I once shot a 300 yard match (Iron sites and 10 rounds in 1 minute for 20 shots and scored a perfect score of 20 X in a 3'' x ring but that was not what I call precision shooting with a 1 MOA</p><p>group. It was a very good score but I have hunting rifles that will do less that 1'' groups @ 300</p><p>yards if I load precision ammo and take my time to get the best hold and trigger control, so I think we are talking about to different types of shooting. shooting for score, or shooting for precision.</p><p></p><p>I won many matches because I took the time to load the best ammo I could not because I was such a good shot. There were many shooters that would say "aw you don't need to do that" or "That's close enough". Some would try to convince others shooters that there way was the best way. (Because they wanted to stay ahead of them and continue to win) and in truth they did not practice</p><p>what they preached. They kept there little secrets to them selves.</p><p></p><p>The bottom line is do what you want and live with the results. I have tested every process that will make a rifle more accurate and every loading technique to get the most consistence and will never change it except for improving it if I can.</p><p></p><p>Just my opinion</p><p></p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 1319141, member: 2736"] A lot of people are doing many different things because of the rules of the match they are competing in. I personally don't consider many types of matches Bench Rest just because they shoot off of a bench and use sand bags and a front rest of some type. This type of shooting is normally for score and not for total group size (Precision) The most accurate rifles in the world are rail guns and require the very best ammo to be competitive I have never seen an unlimited bench rest shooter shoot 2 to 3 seconds apart. I have competed in 300 yard rapid fire matches that required 10 shots in 60 seconds with a loading half way through the string. With a bolt rifle you were forced to shoot every 4 seconds or you would not finish. this was position shooting with Iron sites. True precision shooting is a different sport, and I have seen these guys shoot and they were in no hurry and they do there loading at the match. most bring only enough brass for one group at a time and it is specially prepared and tested for the best accuracy. they also number the cases for the most consistent group and shoot them in order. When I competed at the long range matches, (1000 to 1200 yards) I chose the method of watching the conditions and waiting for them to be the same before each shot rather that chasing the mirage and the wind. We had 20 minutes to fire 20 rounds and sometimes I would use all of it. I loaded 3 to 4 different types of ammo for the matches and only partially full sized for the rapid fire events to assure loading all of the long range precision ammo was loaded as I described earlier to get the most precision from my rifle. I would like to have seen the group size of the lady on the video but they were shooting for score and precision groups don't mean much. I once shot a 300 yard match (Iron sites and 10 rounds in 1 minute for 20 shots and scored a perfect score of 20 X in a 3'' x ring but that was not what I call precision shooting with a 1 MOA group. It was a very good score but I have hunting rifles that will do less that 1'' groups @ 300 yards if I load precision ammo and take my time to get the best hold and trigger control, so I think we are talking about to different types of shooting. shooting for score, or shooting for precision. I won many matches because I took the time to load the best ammo I could not because I was such a good shot. There were many shooters that would say "aw you don't need to do that" or "That's close enough". Some would try to convince others shooters that there way was the best way. (Because they wanted to stay ahead of them and continue to win) and in truth they did not practice what they preached. They kept there little secrets to them selves. The bottom line is do what you want and live with the results. I have tested every process that will make a rifle more accurate and every loading technique to get the most consistence and will never change it except for improving it if I can. Just my opinion J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
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