Meloniting

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  1. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    Should I do it? Caliber would be either the 6.5 creedmoor or the 6.5 Lapua. Where would be a good place to have it done?
     
  2. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    I have not heard or read a bad thing about it. Less fouling, easier cleaning, corrosion proof, increased barrel life, and possible increase in velocity. I'll be doing it to my barrels and actions.

    I am going through H&M

    H&M Metal Processing: What is Black Nitride?
     

  3. BH Hunter

    BH Hunter Well-Known Member

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    I did four barrels at tru tec in Ark this year
     
  4. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    What kind of costs am I looking at?
     
  5. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    Last I checked...

    H&M, $100/barrel, $200/rifle (includes action, trigger, any steel parts)

    Trutec, $100/barrel, $160/barrel and action... they don't do all actions
     
  6. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    That's not bad at all. Do I have to take the trigger group off, or is that something they do in house? Will they do a Savage action?
     
  7. BH Hunter

    BH Hunter Well-Known Member

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    After the complete build/ rebiuld, the barrels were disassembled and just the barrels were done. That's how we did those four guns. Haven't got them back yet supposed to be here last week.
     
  8. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I think it's well worth it. I have not heard of anyone burning out a nitrided barrel yet. I've heard estimates of doubling or tripling of barrel life or more. You can still fire crack a bore if you shoot it too hot, but if you treat it well it will slow down throat erosion and it should last a long time. Even if you only increased a barrels life by 25% it has already paid for itself, not to mention all the other benefits.

    Your barrel should be new or almost new. You have to disassemble every thing you want treated and remove all springs. No Aluminum, etc. There are two outfits you need to go through for MMI Trutec. One is Benchmark Barrels. I know Trutec will do 700 actions, and not any cast actions. Not sure about H&M

    H&M has a little cooler bath than Trutec (1000* vs 1100*, or something like that) and will do any action and triggers, etc as well. Everything must be disassembled and remove all springs. I plan on having my triggers done as well.
     
  9. elkaholic

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    H & M did mine and it turned out great! They are the originals and I'm told the temp is critical since it is very close to loosing temper! The action is silky smooth and I gained about 25'/sec. velocity. If you can find someone that sends in volume, you can save some $$$$$. I sent mine in with BAT and it cost me $75 for barrel, action, muzzle brake, etc........Rich
     
  10. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    Rich, how is your bore for fouling and cleaning?
     
  11. elkaholic

    elkaholic Well-Known Member

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    Makes it easy!:D
     
  12. liltank

    liltank Well-Known Member

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    Do you do break in before or after the meloniting process?
     
  13. MontanaRifleman

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    I plan on breaking mine in with heavy bullets and light slow powder loads. I'm guessing 5-10 rounds should do it.
     
  14. elkaholic

    elkaholic Well-Known Member

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    The new thinking is to lap the throat after chambering, check with a bore scope, and send it in. That is what I'm doing with my next one. Saves a lot of hassle.......rich
    This is if you start with a lapped barrel to begin with.....