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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 257252" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>The recoil would be greater with the 338 or the 300 wby but with those you would have a legitimate 600-700 yard elk rifle. I would not consider the short mag in that category at all. With bullets up to 150 grains it can hold its own against say a 300 win mag. But with the heavier bullets it falls of the pace pretty much and in my opinion there is just not enough velocity there with the 200's in a short mag to justify a 600-700 yard elk rifle. With the perfect angle and perfect shot it will kill one with no trouble but I wouldn't limit myself. If I wanted an elk rifle I would get one that would do the job much more effectively and unfortunately good elk rifles kick a little. I would limit to quarter mile range I think with the short mag and 200's. I have been working quite a bit with my 300 short mag the past couple of months and it kicks with the 180's and 200's. I think the 300 wsm is at it's best with a 150 Barnes ttsx or similar going 3300-3400 fps. My gun weighs 7 pounds scoped out and the recoil of the 180 and 200 were to much without a muzzle brake to shoot with extreme accuracy at the longer targets. The 150 I could lay right in there at 500 yards. Went down a row of gallon jugs full of water without missing a shot at 500 yards which is way good enough for deer and elk hunting. I am shooting the 150 barnes at 3419 fps with H-414 powder with light recoil and like I said in an earlier post I could kill anything in Wyoming with it. The barnes retains all of its bullet weight making the 150 kill like a 200.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 257252, member: 505"] The recoil would be greater with the 338 or the 300 wby but with those you would have a legitimate 600-700 yard elk rifle. I would not consider the short mag in that category at all. With bullets up to 150 grains it can hold its own against say a 300 win mag. But with the heavier bullets it falls of the pace pretty much and in my opinion there is just not enough velocity there with the 200's in a short mag to justify a 600-700 yard elk rifle. With the perfect angle and perfect shot it will kill one with no trouble but I wouldn't limit myself. If I wanted an elk rifle I would get one that would do the job much more effectively and unfortunately good elk rifles kick a little. I would limit to quarter mile range I think with the short mag and 200's. I have been working quite a bit with my 300 short mag the past couple of months and it kicks with the 180's and 200's. I think the 300 wsm is at it's best with a 150 Barnes ttsx or similar going 3300-3400 fps. My gun weighs 7 pounds scoped out and the recoil of the 180 and 200 were to much without a muzzle brake to shoot with extreme accuracy at the longer targets. The 150 I could lay right in there at 500 yards. Went down a row of gallon jugs full of water without missing a shot at 500 yards which is way good enough for deer and elk hunting. I am shooting the 150 barnes at 3419 fps with H-414 powder with light recoil and like I said in an earlier post I could kill anything in Wyoming with it. The barnes retains all of its bullet weight making the 150 kill like a 200. [/QUOTE]
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