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Long range muzzleloader for a noob
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<blockquote data-quote="ENCORE" data-source="post: 1205481" data-attributes="member: 33046"><p>Respectfully, yes smokeless is more dangerous. One single mistake can completely create an explosion of the barrel. Not just ringing it, as will happen with most modern in-line rifles. I agree, education and being completely and totally aware of what you're doing at ALL times is a must. Double charge or double load a smokeless and you have a potential pipe bomb. Double charge or double load with BP or BPS and you'll most likely end up with a ring in th</p><p>e barrel.</p><p>Even some of the best smokeless builders have had barrels completely explode. Those same barrels that IIRC, none are <u>actually proof tested </u>to 100k. Even the guys on Doug's have had problems and continuously try to educate shooters on pressures. IMO its far from a novice rifle/system and only those with many years of muzzleloading should attempt shooting smokeless.</p><p>Now if one wants to build a rifle capable of shooting smokeless and then shoot BP or BPS in it, then they're good rifles for just that. However, the states also know that some of the guys on Doug's are getting 4,000fps and its not going to fly during muzzleloader seasons. Heck, the guys on Doug's couldn't even get along and that group split.</p><p></p><p>Maybe you recognize this barrel and rifle........... To my knowledge, its still not known the exact cause. I think this is just one of 5 in the last year and a half.</p><p></p><p>Physics....... the Laws of Physics....... with each force, there's an equal and opposite force. Therefore, 2,300fps at the muzzle with a 300gr projectile, both rifles would have equal and opposite forces. Law of Physics</p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/BarnesAddict/media/blownbarrel1_zps15eaed86.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o800/BarnesAddict/blownbarrel1_zps15eaed86.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ENCORE, post: 1205481, member: 33046"] Respectfully, yes smokeless is more dangerous. One single mistake can completely create an explosion of the barrel. Not just ringing it, as will happen with most modern in-line rifles. I agree, education and being completely and totally aware of what you're doing at ALL times is a must. Double charge or double load a smokeless and you have a potential pipe bomb. Double charge or double load with BP or BPS and you'll most likely end up with a ring in th e barrel. Even some of the best smokeless builders have had barrels completely explode. Those same barrels that IIRC, none are [U]actually proof tested [/U]to 100k. Even the guys on Doug's have had problems and continuously try to educate shooters on pressures. IMO its far from a novice rifle/system and only those with many years of muzzleloading should attempt shooting smokeless. Now if one wants to build a rifle capable of shooting smokeless and then shoot BP or BPS in it, then they're good rifles for just that. However, the states also know that some of the guys on Doug's are getting 4,000fps and its not going to fly during muzzleloader seasons. Heck, the guys on Doug's couldn't even get along and that group split. Maybe you recognize this barrel and rifle........... To my knowledge, its still not known the exact cause. I think this is just one of 5 in the last year and a half. Physics....... the Laws of Physics....... with each force, there's an equal and opposite force. Therefore, 2,300fps at the muzzle with a 300gr projectile, both rifles would have equal and opposite forces. Law of Physics [URL=http://s1343.photobucket.com/user/BarnesAddict/media/blownbarrel1_zps15eaed86.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o800/BarnesAddict/blownbarrel1_zps15eaed86.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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