long range accuracy?

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by RustyRick, Feb 8, 2014.

  1. RustyRick

    RustyRick Well-Known Member

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    What kind of group at 100 yrds constitutes good enough accuracy for long range hunting.

    i.e. is a 1 inch group at 100 yrds acceptable for 1000 yrd shots?

    I'm too old to savvy MOA :D
     

  2. Jud96

    Jud96 Well-Known Member

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    A rifle that shoots 1inch at 100yds shoots 10inches at 1000yds.
     

  3. RustyRick

    RustyRick Well-Known Member

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    OK Thanks that helps! I'm trying to get my 243 HLd's down to 1/2" @ 100, and getting close.

    I'm hoping to get some 400 yrds yotes with it and a Leupold VX6.
     
  4. Young-Gun

    Young-Gun Well-Known Member

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    MOA.... =
    1" at 100
    2" at 200
    3" at 300
    4" at 400
    5" at 500

    i think you see the pattern here...
     
  5. Mateo

    Mateo Well-Known Member

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    As far a shooting and killing an animal at that distance, everything changes. You won't be at your shooting range anymore, and altitude will be different, wind will be needed to be calculated correctly, spin drift, coriolis effect has to be understood and accounted for. These shots should be practised, and practised again. And when you think you got it , practise some more. YouTube makes it look easy , but there is so much preparation that goes into a single shot at that range. Especially cold bore. I think 1/2 -3/4 inch off the bench at 100 should be your benchmark. Welcome to long range shooting!
     
  6. RT2506

    RT2506 Well-Known Member

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    One thing to take into account is that if a rifle shoots 1/2" at 100 does not mean that it will shoot 4" at 400. Some rifles and loads DO shoot tighter at longer range than they do at shorter ranges. The only way to know is to shoot out to those yardages. I have seen rifles that would shoot a certain load 1" at 100 and shoot 1 3/4" at 300 yards. You never know until you give it a try. I have also seen rifles shoot bug holes at 100 and shoot all over the place at 300 yards.
     
  7. baldhunter

    baldhunter Well-Known Member

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    +1 to what RT2506 posted,J've seen the same thing.I used to put a lot of effort working up a great group @ 100yds,only to be disappointed when I shot it at 200yds.These days,I go for a really great group @ 200yds and that will cover most of my hunting shots.
     
  8. Mark611

    Mark611 Well-Known Member

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    in my opinion I don't use 100yds as a standard for accuracy, I use a 200m as a standard:) but I shoot my own hand loads, for example I have a box stock Savage FLCP-K in 308win and it will shoot sub MOA @ 200m, I can usually put 10rnd inside of a milk jug lid which 1.5'' in dia @200m pretty easily with 175gn SMK's:D
     
  9. RustyRick

    RustyRick Well-Known Member

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    So now you tell me that it might group different at father out ranges. Oh well that means I get to load more, and go to the range more. ROFL gun)
    Thanks a bunch guys. Gotta love this web page. :)
     
  10. Mark611

    Mark611 Well-Known Member

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    different bullet types shoot differently at different ranges:) if your shooting inside of 300yds a flat base bullet will shoot a little more accurate then a boat tail, boat tail bullets tend to stabilize better an are more accurate the further out they go:D that's their use for long range shootinggun)
     
  11. Rshooter

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    Absolutely work your loads up at longer range if possible, 300 yd. would be great if you can. Also, if you're going to be hunting with a bipod, then zero your rifle with a bipod as different point of impact may occur if shooting off of a rest or bags etc.
     
  12. HunterGreen

    HunterGreen Well-Known Member

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    Your getting some of the best advice from different folks. Write it down and study them in range. Remember rifle twist on bullets with barrel harmonics will be different as heat changes everything.

    Shoot, write it down, shoot again write it down.

    After a few hours you'll see that even sticking your tongue out will change POI
     
  13. RustyRick

    RustyRick Well-Known Member

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    WOW - your right about the good advice. I'm ready to spend my retirement funds at the shooting range. I'm very grateful for the advise given and when the red line on my thermometer gets off - 30 and closer to 0 F, we'll get after some of this.
     
  14. newmexkid

    newmexkid Well-Known Member

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    I use 100 yds. just to get around the bull. Then I go to 200 and that's were load development starts for me.