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<blockquote data-quote="Buffalobob" data-source="post: 210020" data-attributes="member: 8"><p>Eaglet</p><p>I seldom say the pledge of allegiance. It is meaningless for me. I will normally salute the flag but if saluting is not appropriate then I do nothing. I enjoy the act of saluting the flag. </p><p></p><p>When I returned from RVN there were two kinds of people. Those who went and those who didn't. It seemed to me that those who didn't were the ones more likely to be seen in public reciting the pledge. Perhaps that is untrue but it is the way it seemed to me.</p><p></p><p>With an all volunteer army it is easy for people to be patriotic being as it will be somebody else's job to die for the nation. When we all had to serve, patriotism had a higher cost. </p><p></p><p> So, my bottom line is that standing up in public and saying words doesn't demonstrate anything. Even a parrot can be trained to do that. It is pretty much like this forum, you can run your mouth or you can go and shoot something. I tend to enjoy the people who go hunting and post up some good pictures.</p><p></p><p>I have no problem with John McCains story but the insult delivered as a post script is irritating and then Telkev has to act like a bigot and state that patriotism is only his way and no other way and anybody who acts differently from his established rules needs punishment. </p><p></p><p>Len has move the last two threads like this and I do not understand why Phil couldn't take the hint and put it where Len has been putting stuff like this. I do nto goo down there because I know what is in those thread. I like Phil and he is a nice guy, but I don't need his political views. I have my own, thank you very much.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buffalobob, post: 210020, member: 8"] Eaglet I seldom say the pledge of allegiance. It is meaningless for me. I will normally salute the flag but if saluting is not appropriate then I do nothing. I enjoy the act of saluting the flag. When I returned from RVN there were two kinds of people. Those who went and those who didn't. It seemed to me that those who didn't were the ones more likely to be seen in public reciting the pledge. Perhaps that is untrue but it is the way it seemed to me. With an all volunteer army it is easy for people to be patriotic being as it will be somebody else's job to die for the nation. When we all had to serve, patriotism had a higher cost. So, my bottom line is that standing up in public and saying words doesn't demonstrate anything. Even a parrot can be trained to do that. It is pretty much like this forum, you can run your mouth or you can go and shoot something. I tend to enjoy the people who go hunting and post up some good pictures. I have no problem with John McCains story but the insult delivered as a post script is irritating and then Telkev has to act like a bigot and state that patriotism is only his way and no other way and anybody who acts differently from his established rules needs punishment. Len has move the last two threads like this and I do not understand why Phil couldn't take the hint and put it where Len has been putting stuff like this. I do nto goo down there because I know what is in those thread. I like Phil and he is a nice guy, but I don't need his political views. I have my own, thank you very much. [/QUOTE]
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