is the 7wsm dead?

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by lloydsmale, Jan 26, 2013.

  1. lloydsmale

    lloydsmale Well-Known Member

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    Theres one on the rack at the local dealer that i was thinking on but brass isnt anywhere and i see wincherster no longer has anything in that caliber on there website.
     
  2. geargrinder

    geargrinder Well-Known Member

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    You can still get brass. Or you can make brass from 270 or 300wsm brass. Simple neck size and easy fireform.

    I use Norma brass in my 7mmWSM.

    It's not dead by any means. It's a great long range thumper.
     

  3. Daveinjax

    Daveinjax Well-Known Member

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    Not dead at all but moving into a custom chamber only it looks like. They seem to be commanding a premium on the used market these days and its a great round. I think you will see factory offerings from time to time but will not be a regular in anybody's line.
     
  4. Snowman

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    A nephew bought one last summer. Salesman at the shop must have been pumping him pretty hard. Got a scope mounted and went to buy some ammo and had a very difficult time finding any . Not a happy camper. He got a heck of a deal on the rifle and now he knows why. Had a talk with him at Christmas and he decided he wants to keep it so its time to take in a lifetime suppy of brass.
     
  5. sj-pratt

    sj-pratt Official LRH Sponsor

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    I sure have had good luck with the 7MM WSM, built at least 10 in the last year 180 bergers alittle RL22 2990-3020 fps, I sure would not be afraid of one if the price was right you.
     
  6. etisll40

    etisll40 Well-Known Member

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    I'm on my 2nd one. I bought a bunch of failsafe ammunition on gunbroker cheap. It actually shoots really good for hunting out aways. Brass is formed and then on to Bergers 168's awesome. I'm going to re stock soon. I think that ammo is still on Gunbroker and it's about 25 a box. The win 70 I bought on Gunbroker for about 450. There are more on there. My other is a Browning. If I ever shoot the barrel out I can stay with 7 wsm or go to 300WSM. That seems like the keeper of the wsm's.
     
  7. upacreek

    upacreek Well-Known Member

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    7wan is not listed in the current model 70 line up that I can find. Only 270wsm, and 300wsm
     
  8. etisll40

    etisll40 Well-Known Member

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    Go to Gunbroker and search in bolt action rifles, just put shadow in. I THEN CLICK THE PRICE BUTTON TO SEARCH LOWEST PRICE FIRST. When you get by the featured listings onto the 2nd page you'll see 3 7mmWSM shadows today for less than $500. You can try other search variations too, like WSM or model 70 or post, there are probably more, they come up quite often. I see them starting to creep up in price lately. If you get the 300WSM, you can always re-barrel to 7WSM. There are some barrels there too. They are a great value. They come up all the time. Places like Walmart were selling lots of them for years. The actions are push feed or controlled round push feeds post 64 actions. I like the 2003-2004 models of the model 70's, great actions. Most are ADL blind magazines, I like the simplicity of ADL bling mags for carrying and hunting. They can be tack drivers, it is a good start for a build. Just depends on how far you want to go accuracy wise. Great starting point for a 7mmWSM, the action and caliber are great, real keeper in my opinion. The 7mmWSM Failsafe ammunition is pretty good too and a source of brass. It's on Gunbroker typically use the ammunition search category.

    Good Luck...
     
  9. Capt Academy

    Capt Academy Well-Known Member

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    I love my Rbros 7 WSM, it shoots like a dream. Low recoil and excellent accuracy! (DE break) I am getting a 7mm mag soon, so I will be able to shoot them side by side and see if any differences exist just to satisfy my curiosity. I have heard they are extremey close, should be interesting.
     
  10. chas3stix

    chas3stix Well-Known Member

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    Not to hijack your thread but "Big Green" has eliminated their 7mmSAUM rifles from their online catalog too.
     
  11. Iron Worker

    Iron Worker Well-Known Member

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    My custom barreled 7 WSM leaves a 7 REM Mag in the dust. No they aren't equal .....
     
  12. lloydsmale

    lloydsmale Well-Known Member

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    sorry but loaded to the same pressure in the same length barrel and im not buying it.
     
  13. Snowman

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    The marketing ploy that the short fat case somehow burns powder "more efficiently"is comming unraveled. Like PO Ackley and other proved years ago ,if you put 70 grs of powder in two differently shaped cases of the same capacity you will get the same velocity (or very close). It sold a few guns but I think you are going to see a lot of new gun buyers go back to the 7mm Rem and the 300 Win because performance is on par with the short mags and ammo is availible everywhere at 1/2 to 2/3 the price of the short mags. If you have a short mag and are happy with it, Great ! I suggest you take in a supply of ammo or brass because 5-10 years from now you may have trouble finding it.lightbulb
     
  14. lloydsmale

    lloydsmale Well-Known Member

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    amen to that. Biggest reason the short mags advertise such high velocitys is there loaded to 60000 psi. Load the 300 win or 7mm rem to those pressures and see what you get. Also ive found loading for my buddys 300wsm that when loaded up to max book loads brass life is short. Ive seen his brass fail after only 3 loadings. Now after saying this ill add that i just myself bought a 300 wsm and am thinking on a 7wsm. Why? Because i dont have one and its something new to play with and shoot deer with. I go into it with open eyes though and dont expect my short mag to run with a 7stw!!! To back up snowman there was just an article in handloader where they took the same powder charges and put them in a 300wsm and a 300 H&H (just the case to be the exact opposite of this short case crap) and got about identical velocitys in both. Nope, sorry guys but no magic here.