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<blockquote data-quote="Mike6158" data-source="post: 592749" data-attributes="member: 1039"><p>When I read posts of incredible accuracy and there are no pictures of the target (even though that "could" be staged) I take them with a grain of salt. Especially the 500 yard 1/4 moa from a factory rifle posts. Hell... I wouldn't believe my posts if there weren't pics <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>I was just looking at a 300 yard target from a few days ago. I have an idea. New standards- (1) RLSS (Real Life Shooting Standard) and (2) ISS (Internet shooting standard.</p><p></p><p>If I apply standard #2 to my 300 yard group from the other day then I get:</p><p></p><p>(1) hole in a 1" square, another hole in a 1" square but different, and another hole in a 1" square only a lot different, like 6" away. Lastly, 3 holes in a two inch square. So naught from naught, carry the naught... drum roll...</p><p></p><p>2/3 minute - 1/3 minute - 1/3 minute - 1/3 minute = -1/3 minute. Drop the minus sign (cause that would seem disingenuous) so 1/3 minute it is... not bad for a factory rifle with only a muzzle break and a jewel trigger added. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p>Happy 2012 ya'll</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's funny that you post this. I've been working on a load for my 7mag (168 gr Berger VLD's). I found a powder / bullet / primer combo that gives me about 1/2 a minute at 100 yards. (Side note- It never ceases to amaze me how a small powder volume change or type change can cause a group to close up. Fun stuff). Take it out to 300 yards and the group goes out to a minute or more. Granted, there was a 3-5 mph + gusts xwind from 200° but I thought that the groups should have been tighter than that. The rounds are a little lower velocity than you normally see for a 7mag, like 2800 fps and less, so maybe that's why the groups opened up?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike6158, post: 592749, member: 1039"] When I read posts of incredible accuracy and there are no pictures of the target (even though that "could" be staged) I take them with a grain of salt. Especially the 500 yard 1/4 moa from a factory rifle posts. Hell... I wouldn't believe my posts if there weren't pics :D I was just looking at a 300 yard target from a few days ago. I have an idea. New standards- (1) RLSS (Real Life Shooting Standard) and (2) ISS (Internet shooting standard. If I apply standard #2 to my 300 yard group from the other day then I get: (1) hole in a 1" square, another hole in a 1" square but different, and another hole in a 1" square only a lot different, like 6" away. Lastly, 3 holes in a two inch square. So naught from naught, carry the naught... drum roll... 2/3 minute - 1/3 minute - 1/3 minute - 1/3 minute = -1/3 minute. Drop the minus sign (cause that would seem disingenuous) so 1/3 minute it is... not bad for a factory rifle with only a muzzle break and a jewel trigger added. :cool: Happy 2012 ya'll It's funny that you post this. I've been working on a load for my 7mag (168 gr Berger VLD's). I found a powder / bullet / primer combo that gives me about 1/2 a minute at 100 yards. (Side note- It never ceases to amaze me how a small powder volume change or type change can cause a group to close up. Fun stuff). Take it out to 300 yards and the group goes out to a minute or more. Granted, there was a 3-5 mph + gusts xwind from 200° but I thought that the groups should have been tighter than that. The rounds are a little lower velocity than you normally see for a 7mag, like 2800 fps and less, so maybe that's why the groups opened up? [/QUOTE]
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