General UT Muzzleloader Deer

Browninglover1

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This year I built a semi-custom Arrowhead Muzzleloader and was able to put it to good use this fall when I killed my best buck to date.


Pack in
Josh, Mikk and I all gave our backpacks a final adjustment and waved the truck goodbye as the sun began to creep behind the mountains. It was 7:03 PM as we hit the trail head and began our long climb towards camp. As darkness began to take hold, we arrived at our last known water source and each filled up enough water to last us a few days. The extra 20+ pounds of water in my pack was immediately noticed as the trail got steeper and rockier as we continued our climb. Around 9:30 we arrived at the location where we would break off the trail and began bushwhacking up the mountain. We each took our packs off and rested for a few minutes before the final hellacious climb to the top. The final climb would take us 2.5 hours of brush busting and dealing with loose dirt; to say we were exhausted when we arrived at camp at 12:30 AM would be an understatement. We ate a little bite of dinner and Mikk and I went to sleep in the Kifaru Sawtooth while Josh preferred a canopy of stars.
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Opening Morning
The alarm went off around 6:15 AM and we all wiped the sleep from our eyes, got dressed, and headed a short way up the ridge to begin glassing. It didn't take long before Josh had found some deer in his 15x Vortex Kaibabs. Mikk and I both found them in our 15x binos as well and watched two bucks start to push each other around. Josh broke out his Vortex Razor spotter and zeroed in on the group to get a better look at their antlers. It was still so dark it was hard to make out much detail, but it was apparent that one of the deer had a nice sized frame. Continued glassing turned up additional deer with at least 9 bucks within a few hundred yards of each other.

We discussed our options and decided that at least two of the deer appeared to be good enough to shoot and that we should make a move to get into shooting position. We had left our trekking poles in camp so I ran back to get them as well as to drop off some unneeded clothing layers.

Once I was back to Mikk and Josh we snuck up the ridge another couple hundred yards and glassed the deer again. The closer view combined with the better lighting confirmed the presence of a shooter buck and the final plan was hatched. We would work our way across the steep side hill and drop down into the bottom of the little basin the deer were in. We hoped to pop out of the timber on the basin floor and be able to find the deer a few hundred yards away as they worked their way to the heavy pines they would bed in for the day. About a half an hour later we were on the basin floor and had spotted one of the bucks feeding on the steep side hill in a small avalanche chute.

Final Setup
There was a small rock bench near our location that looked like it would allow for the perfect shooting platform so I grabbed my muzzleloader, ramrod, rear bag and my AGC bino pack and got setup on the rock shelf. I ranged the deer at over 450 yards and knew I needed to get an accurate wind reading to make the shot. I threw some wind indicator into the air and determined I had a 3mph wind coming from my 2 o'clock. I plugged the wind into the Kilo2400, ranged him again, and dialed in the correction on my turrets.
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Meanwhile, Josh had setup his muzzleloader just a few feet away and got a camera running in the spotting scope. Mikk had taken a position behind us to watch the events unfold in his 15x binos and we were all ready for the magic to happen. I got down behind my musket and to my astonishment I could not find the deer in my scope. I asked the other two where he was at and they said he was still in the chute. I frantically pulled out my 8x Swaro EL's and immediately spotted his butt just inside the tree line. The few feet separating me from the other two was preventing me from seeing the deer.

We all had a feeling he'd feed through the narrow timber patch and out the other side, so I made a slight adjustment to my positioning and just a few seconds later the deer appeared. I grabbed a new range, made the slight adjustment on the turret and watched in dismay as he never slowed down in the opening and walked into the next group of trees. A smaller buck behind him also skipped through the opening and then a third deer appeared. This deer also appeared to be a shooter and Mikk and Josh both confirmed it was worth shooting. I took a quick range to confirm the distance, settled in behind the weapon and yelled twice to get him to stop. Josh also let out a loud "yip" and the buck stopped perfectly broadside and looked at our location just mere feet from the safety of the trees. The cross hair of the MOAR reticle was steady in the vitals as I pressed the last few ounces of the Trigger Tech trigger.

KA-BOOM! 115 grains of BH209 was ignited and the 325 Grain XLD bullet launched out of the barrel at a brisk 2550 fps. Through a haze of smoke, I could see the deer hunch up and Josh confirmed a direct hit in the lungs. I watched as the deer slowly stepped into the trees and we never saw him exit. "That looked like a good shot right?" I asked.

Mikk and Josh both confirmed a perfect shot and Josh even captured it on his cell phone through the spotter. We replayed the video and watched the bullet impact right in the crease. Upon seeing the perfect shot placement my adrenaline started to surge and I got a little shaky. I had just killed my biggest deer to date and had done it with a perfect muzzleloader shot at 440 yards.

The Hard Work
We packed up our stuff and worked our way over to the deer. The incredibly steep terrain made the ¼ mile walk take longer than anticipated but soon we were standing in the chute where he had been. As I began to walk towards the trees, I saw his antlers sticking up perfectly above the rolling ridgeline. He hadn't even made it 20 yards before piling up perfectly against a pine tree.
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As we approached him we were all pleasantly surprised. While we knew he wasn't a trophy deer, he had a better frame than we realized and quite a bit of mass. I sat down and just stared at him for quite a while as an immense sense of satisfaction overcame me from having finally harvested a mature mule deer.

We spent a few minutes getting some pictures that will help me relive the memory forever and then the hard work started. We broke him down and loaded half of the meat into my pack, half into Mikk's pack, and Josh took the skinned-out head. We hauled him down the chute, across the basin and up across the steep sidehill back to camp. We then took a much-needed break and enjoyed some lunch.
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That night and the following morning we glassed for more deer but didn't find any bucks worth going after. With the day warming up we decided to break down camp and pack out. The steep terrain that required so many stops on the way up, was much easier to go down and 2 hours later we were back at the truck. Once back at the truck a huge sense of gratitude fell over me as I knew this hunt wouldn't have been possible without the help of two great friends and I'll forever be indebted to them for helping make one of my dreams come to fruition.

Here's the video of the shot if that interests you:
 

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Very, very, impressed, great job, congratulations. Prior to my eyesight going south I hunted muzzleloader for 20 years, elk and deer, but have never seen or attempted a shot like that. That's a real deal trophy.
With magnified optics it becomes possible to shoot any distance you're comfortable with. I've done 300 yards with no magnification but that's a LONG ways on a deer with open sights.
 
With magnified optics it becomes possible to shoot any distance you're comfortable with. I've done 300 yards with no magnification but that's a LONG ways on a deer with open sights.
Unfortunately here in Washington we cannot use a scope, we're allowed sealed breeches, 209 primers, jacketed bullets, sabots and pellets, why they won't allow scopes is beyond me. I'd even be OK with a 1x if it made the everything clear, makes it tough for those getting to the age wear eyesight is a factor. Thanks for the comeback and again, one of the best stories Iv'e read in a long time.
 
Unfortunately here in Washington we cannot use a scope, we're allowed sealed breeches, 209 primers, jacketed bullets, sabots and pellets, why they won't allow scopes is beyond me. I'd even be OK with a 1x if it made the everything clear, makes it tough for those getting to the age wear eyesight is a factor. Thanks for the comeback and again, one of the best stories Iv'e read in a long time.
Glad you enjoyed it. It was a long time coming for me to finally kill a decent deer and I couldn't be more happy. I can't imagine how guys feel when they kill true giants.
 
same as colorado. They don't allow scopes unless you have a permit due to really bad eyed. Why? because then you'd have all these guys running around taking 300-400 yard shots and completely ruining the traditional meaning of muzzleloading. Its all about slowing down, limiting your shots in a certain way. Not blasting them away like its rifle season.
 
same as colorado. They don't allow scopes unless you have a permit due to really bad eyed. Why? because then you'd have all these guys running around taking 300-400 yard shots and completely ruining the traditional meaning of muzzleloading. Its all about slowing down, limiting your shots in a certain way. Not blasting them away like its rifle season.
Not all muzzleloader hunts are meant to be traditional. UT has allowed more modern weapons based off feedback from hunter surveys, they've also introduced short range weapons hunts that limit muzzleloaders to more traditional methods. I'm a huge proponent of both types of seasons.

This muzzleloader is very capable at 5-600 yards but to say it's the same as shooting a rifle is simply not true. Extended distance still doesn't eliminate the fact I have to load it slow exactly the same as every other muzzleloader which means a 500 yard shot with this muzzy is not something I can just crank off like I could with a rifle. I know way more people that have missed or wounded animals at sub 200 yards using their open sighted muzzleloaders than I do people that have wounded animals at long range with their modern muzzies.
 
I think that here in Washington, the true traditional hunters that either hunt flintlock or sidelock with patched roundballs should have several days on the front end of the season before the rest begin. I also think that if a scope lessens the chance of a bad hit, that's a good thing. At any range, scoped or not, muzzleloading is still a one shot at a time and skill is a factor. In regards to letting projectiles fly haphazardly, that can happen regardless of weapon. My buddies bull from last season had been living for several years with a broadhead and part of a shaft in his neck.
 
I'm getting older, and my eyes aren't what I wish they were, but I can still see both sides of the scope discussion. I hunt with a .54 cal. 32-inch barrel Lyman Great Plains side lock rifle and traditional 2FFg black gunpowder. A long shot for me is anything over 125 yards. I guess I don't really belong on this forum, but I like to read this kind of stuff, so here I am, finally. I have red dot sights and scopes on all of my hunting pistols, but my muzzleloader is still topped off with open buckhorn sights. I have to start a little later in the morning and quit a bit earlier in the evening without a light-gathering scope, but that is my kind of muzzleloader hunting. On the other foot, I would love to hunt with a more modern style of muzzleloading rifle because I love hunting. I still hunt with my 38-year-old 7mm magnum and have officially shot the barrel out of my 378 Weatherby. (A real fun pig gun.) Like bow hunting in most places, I would go for an early season for more traditional muzzleloaders, again, because I like to hunt. Each to his own, as they say. I support you all. A good hunter has to hunt within his/her abilities and the weapon's limits. Thanks for listening. Wound not--wish not.
 
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You hit it on the head Treeslug, we are the opposite of the politically correct BS going on, to each his own, I love it. And you absolutely belong here, if you don't, I don't either. And supporting each other and sticking together now more than ever will pave the way for our future generations, I have grown to love long range but short range is cool too. And huge respect for anyone who wears out a 378 Weathby barrel, super cool.
 
You hit it on the head Treeslug, we are the opposite of the politically correct BS going on, to each his own, I love it. And you absolutely belong here, if you don't, I don't either. And supporting each other and sticking together now more than ever will pave the way for our future generations, I have grown to love long range but short range is cool too. And huge respect for anyone who wears out a 378 Weathby barrel, super cool.
Well, I have to mention that the Weatherby does have a break and I load my own, so the cost of shooting it hasn't been a problem over all these years. My wife bought it for me in 1984, and I have hunted with it for everything natural to Texas. Mostly hogs, but it works wonderfully on whitetails, too. The 300 gr. bullet uses about 1,000 ft-lbs of energy on the animal, and 5,000 on the tree behind the animal. With heavy bullets, it does far less tissue damage than my 7mm mag. Everyone has to shoot it so I have probably only worn about 80% of the barrel away. The rest is friends wanting to try it out. I let them shoot it once with the break in place, and then I remove the break. That is a whole other thing. Almost everyone wants the break back in place.

I did not grow up politically correct and I am not going to die being politically correct. I wonder who is going to come take all the guns away from everyone? That is not a PC question these days.

If you say I belong here, good. Y'all are stuck with me, at least for a while. I like being around tolerant people. I have never shot anything at the ranges the folks on this forum talk about, but I think I would have loved it when I was younger. I am left-handed and have no one to leave any more guns to that no one can shoot comfortably. I'll just read about this fun sport and stick with my black powder rifle and my handguns, which I can leave to my boys.
 
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