With or with out scope and enough brass to keep ya going for a while. $710 + shipping She's as sweetheart to shoot. The last image shows typical target. Is similar for 300gr hornadys also. Shot from bench. Ladder test shows somewhere around 77gr of WW760 works pretty well. Hate to see a rifle setting around doing nothing but appreciating. The ol' 338 seems big enough for anything that's gonna attack me/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Scope is dinged pretty well from comming off of a <font color="blue">different</font> rifle before the fella learned about Burris Sig. Rings. Image #5 shows the only mark on the rife. Right side fore arm. You have to look hard but its there.