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Federal GM210M vs CCI BR-2 LR Primers
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<blockquote data-quote="royinidaho" data-source="post: 115898" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>GeeWizz I finally get in tune with Dave and fall out of grace with Bart and jimm. Gloom, disspare and agony on me.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif Sorry Dave I just can't help myself at times.....</p><p></p><p>Here's my experience.</p><p></p><p>two rifles and maybe 400 total shots through both. 100 through the 270 and 300 through the 338 WIN.</p><p></p><p>The 270 WIN w/27" lilja barrel spits the 140gr bullets out at +/-5 FPS for the most part (average)always less than 9 FPS extreme spread. Note that's for 3 shot groups as I am impatient enough to not go to 5 shot groups due to barrel heat. But as I logged a greater number of 3 shot groups the numbers maintained the average SD and ES.</p><p></p><p>Time after time the 640yd milk jug was dead on the first shot (I cheated and shot on only low wind days.) This rifle is capabable of 200yd groups less than 50% in size of the 338 Win groups which hung around 1/2MOA.</p><p></p><p>The 338 extreme velocity spreads were on the order of +/- 20 FPS and greater. Standard deviation of a number of groups was double digits.</p><p></p><p>Overlaying several338 Win 200 yd groups resulted in a somewhat but really definite eliptical/oval shape narrow at top and bottom. But hey groups way small so I was happy. Really impressed the neighbors.</p><p></p><p>When I stuck the steel yote out in the area of 800yds I was chasing shots up and down and never hitting. When I put 5 shots in a large paper target at that distance the group spread was all vertical sufficient to make hitting a 6 inch yote chest a game of chance. A deer would have been difficult to make a good shot on at that distance.</p><p></p><p>Short range accuracy on both rifles was similar. The major difference was that one rifle exhibited terrible extreme velocity fluctuations which I couldn't correct. </p><p></p><p>That's all I have to go by.</p><p></p><p>I'm willing to listen and learn though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="royinidaho, post: 115898, member: 2011"] GeeWizz I finally get in tune with Dave and fall out of grace with Bart and jimm. Gloom, disspare and agony on me.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Sorry Dave I just can't help myself at times..... Here's my experience. two rifles and maybe 400 total shots through both. 100 through the 270 and 300 through the 338 WIN. The 270 WIN w/27" lilja barrel spits the 140gr bullets out at +/-5 FPS for the most part (average)always less than 9 FPS extreme spread. Note that's for 3 shot groups as I am impatient enough to not go to 5 shot groups due to barrel heat. But as I logged a greater number of 3 shot groups the numbers maintained the average SD and ES. Time after time the 640yd milk jug was dead on the first shot (I cheated and shot on only low wind days.) This rifle is capabable of 200yd groups less than 50% in size of the 338 Win groups which hung around 1/2MOA. The 338 extreme velocity spreads were on the order of +/- 20 FPS and greater. Standard deviation of a number of groups was double digits. Overlaying several338 Win 200 yd groups resulted in a somewhat but really definite eliptical/oval shape narrow at top and bottom. But hey groups way small so I was happy. Really impressed the neighbors. When I stuck the steel yote out in the area of 800yds I was chasing shots up and down and never hitting. When I put 5 shots in a large paper target at that distance the group spread was all vertical sufficient to make hitting a 6 inch yote chest a game of chance. A deer would have been difficult to make a good shot on at that distance. Short range accuracy on both rifles was similar. The major difference was that one rifle exhibited terrible extreme velocity fluctuations which I couldn't correct. That's all I have to go by. I'm willing to listen and learn though. [/QUOTE]
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