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<blockquote data-quote="DarryH" data-source="post: 921361" data-attributes="member: 77108"><p>I am hoping to get into some long range shooting this year.</p><p>this would be F Class out to 600 yards, from a bench.</p><p> </p><p>I grew up on a farm, and used to shoot up to 1/4 mile away.</p><p> I never had paper targets, so cardboard boxes with a magic maker</p><p> circle on them had to suffice. Often as not, it was a spray can or used oil</p><p> can that I shot at.</p><p> </p><p> Calibers were 22LR, 22 Magnum, 222, 22-250, 243, 270, 30-06, and 8mm Mauser.</p><p> </p><p> I never did hit a can with the 22.s, but I worried them on occasion.</p><p> The 222 and 22-250 worked Ok early in the morning before the wind came up.</p><p> The 243 and 270 were the easiest to hit with.</p><p> The 30-06 was fun, but the drop was pretty high.</p><p> The 8mm was a straight WWII rifle with no alterations and iron sights.</p><p> I actually DID score with it, after I figured out the sights. </p><p> </p><p> I have shot to 600 yards with my M1 Garand and my 1903 Springfields </p><p>at the local club. I can score, but I don't consider that level of accuracy </p><p>to be called shooting groups.</p><p> I SUCK at peep sights at long range.</p><p> </p><p> I see pre-built, or custom guns for sale, but honestly, I cannot afford them.</p><p> I need to start as inexpensively as possible.</p><p> I already have an 8-32x Bushnell 4200 Elite for a scope, so that will suffice for optics.</p><p> I have a Harris Bi-Pod that may also work, if the height is right.</p><p> </p><p> Gun, barrel, trigger, caliber, action, stock, etc.......all need to be hashed out.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>My budget is as far under $1000 that I can get.</strong></p><p> I do NOT want to go to 30 caliber.....</p><p> 6mm, 6.5mm, or 7mm is preferred..... .284 Winchester may be the winner.</p><p> Would like recoil to be kept at 308 level or less possible.</p><p> Need LONG barrel life.</p><p> Willing to spend a bit more for good brass and at least mid quality bullets.</p><p> (I will be flexible)</p><p><strong>I am a lefty, so that is important. </strong></p><p><strong>To shoot F Class of the bench, I need to fire 22 rounds in 20 minutes.</strong></p><p> </p><p> Some local guys are using 6.5x55 Swedish, some 308, others vary.......</p><p> some are shooting a round they call 7mm Dasher (no....not 6mm Dasher)</p><p> </p><p><strong>I am NOT trying to win matches!!!</strong></p><p><strong>I DO want to test my shooting skills....and at least worry a few guys.</strong></p><p> My skill level on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best.....I would say I</p><p> am a solid 6, and once I get used to a gun, more like a 7 or an 8.</p><p> I feel to be a 9 or a 10 means spending a LOT more on the gun, ammo, etc.</p><p> I usually get outshot by superior equipment, or by the guys who have a LOT</p><p> more time and money to practice. I have beat them when I used their equipment.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Can you give me some solid suggestions, sources, etc ???????</strong></p><p></p><p>Only so many people can afford to purchase F Class </p><p>competition ready rifles.</p><p>Think how many more people might get into the hobby</p><p>if they could buy an entry level gun priced more like..... </p><p>or just a little above an over-the-counter gun.</p><p> </p><p>I am sorry to say, but in many areas there are NO good</p><p>gunsmiths to help people get what they need.</p><p>In most cases, no gunsmith means a potential new shooter</p><p>will never pursue their idea to build a gun to get into a new sport.</p><p> </p><p>That increases the number of shooters, which helps keep </p><p>the hobby strong and growing.</p><p>A strong hobby is good when the gun grabbers are looking for</p><p> any weakness they can find to use against gun owners.</p><p> </p><p>I will keep reading, but the lack of a local gunsmith that I</p><p>can trust, may mean I will not be able to pursue this new hobby.</p><p> </p><p>I would appreciate any and all feedback you folks can offer.</p><p> </p><p>Good Shootin!!</p><p>DarryH</p><p>Nebraska</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarryH, post: 921361, member: 77108"] I am hoping to get into some long range shooting this year. this would be F Class out to 600 yards, from a bench. I grew up on a farm, and used to shoot up to 1/4 mile away. I never had paper targets, so cardboard boxes with a magic maker circle on them had to suffice. Often as not, it was a spray can or used oil can that I shot at. Calibers were 22LR, 22 Magnum, 222, 22-250, 243, 270, 30-06, and 8mm Mauser. I never did hit a can with the 22.s, but I worried them on occasion. The 222 and 22-250 worked Ok early in the morning before the wind came up. The 243 and 270 were the easiest to hit with. The 30-06 was fun, but the drop was pretty high. The 8mm was a straight WWII rifle with no alterations and iron sights. I actually DID score with it, after I figured out the sights. I have shot to 600 yards with my M1 Garand and my 1903 Springfields at the local club. I can score, but I don't consider that level of accuracy to be called shooting groups. I SUCK at peep sights at long range. I see pre-built, or custom guns for sale, but honestly, I cannot afford them. I need to start as inexpensively as possible. I already have an 8-32x Bushnell 4200 Elite for a scope, so that will suffice for optics. I have a Harris Bi-Pod that may also work, if the height is right. Gun, barrel, trigger, caliber, action, stock, etc.......all need to be hashed out. [B]My budget is as far under $1000 that I can get.[/B] I do NOT want to go to 30 caliber..... 6mm, 6.5mm, or 7mm is preferred..... .284 Winchester may be the winner. Would like recoil to be kept at 308 level or less possible. Need LONG barrel life. Willing to spend a bit more for good brass and at least mid quality bullets. (I will be flexible) [B]I am a lefty, so that is important. [/B] [B]To shoot F Class of the bench, I need to fire 22 rounds in 20 minutes.[/B] Some local guys are using 6.5x55 Swedish, some 308, others vary....... some are shooting a round they call 7mm Dasher (no....not 6mm Dasher) [B]I am NOT trying to win matches!!![/B] [B]I DO want to test my shooting skills....and at least worry a few guys.[/B] My skill level on a scale of 1-10, 10 being the best.....I would say I am a solid 6, and once I get used to a gun, more like a 7 or an 8. I feel to be a 9 or a 10 means spending a LOT more on the gun, ammo, etc. I usually get outshot by superior equipment, or by the guys who have a LOT more time and money to practice. I have beat them when I used their equipment. [B]Can you give me some solid suggestions, sources, etc ???????[/B] Only so many people can afford to purchase F Class competition ready rifles. Think how many more people might get into the hobby if they could buy an entry level gun priced more like..... or just a little above an over-the-counter gun. I am sorry to say, but in many areas there are NO good gunsmiths to help people get what they need. In most cases, no gunsmith means a potential new shooter will never pursue their idea to build a gun to get into a new sport. That increases the number of shooters, which helps keep the hobby strong and growing. A strong hobby is good when the gun grabbers are looking for any weakness they can find to use against gun owners. I will keep reading, but the lack of a local gunsmith that I can trust, may mean I will not be able to pursue this new hobby. I would appreciate any and all feedback you folks can offer. Good Shootin!! DarryH Nebraska [/QUOTE]
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