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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 456391" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>I got into a lengthy discussion last year on the subject of energy. A guy posted a spread on the energy figures of the 7mm rem mag showing how superior it was. I told from experience there are glitches in the ballistic calculator system for energy when applied to killing big game. It can be used as a refference and that is about it. When I was younger I was a guru on energy and ballistics of every cartridge and bullet on the market. Now I am a guru on how to kill stuff. I pay no attention to energy figures.</p><p> </p><p>Larger calibers give you a better opportunity to kill. Energy figures are just mathematical answers from an equation that in a perfect world would be accurate. Performed in a vaccuum with identical projectiles. Hunting is with many different projectiles and not in a vaccuum. Each projectile performs differently on the media it hits and lessens energy figures to just results of mathematical equations. If you neck the 7mm rem mag to 338 you get the 338 win mag which is a far better elk cartridge. Not because the energy figures show that. Just because it will anchor large big game far better. People argue at long range the 7mm rem mag far surpasses the 338 win mag. First the 7mm rem mag is not to be considered a long range elk rifle by any means and I wouldn't consider shooting at an elk long range with one. At best a 500 yard rifle on elk and I wouldn't do that if it was a big bull. The 338 winchester is easily far more effective on elk size animals at long range or any range no matter what the math says. </p><p> </p><p>I know all the shooters of the popular 7mm rem mag will come on here and try to hammer me. I am not on here because I am concerned what others might say. I am on here to share my experience and people can take that for what it's worth. Doesn't bother me if people disagree but I will state what my experience has been shooting animals with all calibers. Perfect shot with any big game cartridge with the proper bullet equals dead elk. As the shots get more marginal you had better be going up in caliber and weight. Most shots I encounter on elk are marginal and not perfect so I stick to what works in the worst situations and not just the best.</p><p> </p><p>Again I am not saying you need a 338 to kill elk. I am saying your odds are better at killing an elk on the hunt because you are not as limited with shot placement or shot angle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 456391, member: 505"] I got into a lengthy discussion last year on the subject of energy. A guy posted a spread on the energy figures of the 7mm rem mag showing how superior it was. I told from experience there are glitches in the ballistic calculator system for energy when applied to killing big game. It can be used as a refference and that is about it. When I was younger I was a guru on energy and ballistics of every cartridge and bullet on the market. Now I am a guru on how to kill stuff. I pay no attention to energy figures. Larger calibers give you a better opportunity to kill. Energy figures are just mathematical answers from an equation that in a perfect world would be accurate. Performed in a vaccuum with identical projectiles. Hunting is with many different projectiles and not in a vaccuum. Each projectile performs differently on the media it hits and lessens energy figures to just results of mathematical equations. If you neck the 7mm rem mag to 338 you get the 338 win mag which is a far better elk cartridge. Not because the energy figures show that. Just because it will anchor large big game far better. People argue at long range the 7mm rem mag far surpasses the 338 win mag. First the 7mm rem mag is not to be considered a long range elk rifle by any means and I wouldn't consider shooting at an elk long range with one. At best a 500 yard rifle on elk and I wouldn't do that if it was a big bull. The 338 winchester is easily far more effective on elk size animals at long range or any range no matter what the math says. I know all the shooters of the popular 7mm rem mag will come on here and try to hammer me. I am not on here because I am concerned what others might say. I am on here to share my experience and people can take that for what it's worth. Doesn't bother me if people disagree but I will state what my experience has been shooting animals with all calibers. Perfect shot with any big game cartridge with the proper bullet equals dead elk. As the shots get more marginal you had better be going up in caliber and weight. Most shots I encounter on elk are marginal and not perfect so I stick to what works in the worst situations and not just the best. Again I am not saying you need a 338 to kill elk. I am saying your odds are better at killing an elk on the hunt because you are not as limited with shot placement or shot angle. [/QUOTE]
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