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Differences in reloading data?
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<blockquote data-quote="blackco" data-source="post: 140638" data-attributes="member: 7356"><p>CatShooter,</p><p>I'm REALLY not trying to be argumentative and it's off the origainal subject but...I'm a victim of the 80's when marketing/business was all the rage. It may be cynical but most successful businesses are steered by the "bean counters." </p><p>You are absolutely correct; the shooters that shoot a lot are handloaders. But for each one of the guys on this board (my heroes) who are shooting tens of thousands of rounds a year there are 1000 guys like me who only get the chance to shoot 500-1000 rounds a year. And for every guy like me there are...you see where I'm going. </p><p>My father has been reloading since the 60's. For him reloading was a means to an end (good ammo for his guns). Now he gets acceptable results from factory ammo (.5 MOA in a 300wm Sendero) for his hunting (3 elk/4 shots between 500-700yds). I would say he shoots about 1000 rounds a year bought right off the store shelf. And there are many people out there just like him. I also know there are guys out there who have 6 rounds left in a box of 20 because they have killed 13 deer in the last 13 years with that box (1 round to check zero after a fall). </p><p></p><p>I just did some math using prices from Midway (just for comparison. I know this isn't scientific, I can think of about 8 variables that would change this. A box of 300wm ammo with Trophy Bonded Bear Claws=$43.99/box. If I buy the components, including new brass, to reload the same ammo it costs $38.80/20. That is an additional 12% in profits for the manufacturer, $5.28/box. That goes up to 31% if I reuse my own brass, even more if I buy in bulk, etc. </p><p></p><p>People who shoot "a lot," reload. But "a lot" of people shoot factory ammo. Speaking purely business again, the profit margin for loaded ammo is greater than for the components. </p><p></p><p>I don't understand it but there are a lot of people out there shooting factory ammo, I haven't shot a factory loaded centerfire round in over 20 years. It doesn't make sense to me. The people I work around are sick of me preaching the benifits of reloading and I am tired of the "lame" (my opinion) excuses for not reloading. I feel anyone who shoots more than about 50 rounds a year would benifit from reloading. </p><p></p><p>Rifle, ?$1000?</p><p>Box of reloads, $38.80</p><p>Gas to get you there, $159.00</p><p>Satisfaction from putting venison on the table with a bullet you rolled yourself, or, hitting a target/varmint at XXXX yards with a round you rolled yourself, PRICELESS!!! </p><p></p><p>!!!EVERY!!! shooting industry business I have ever dealt with has been nothing but wonderful to me. But don't underestimate what some businesses do to save/make a buck.</p><p></p><p>Somebody has to finance all the great research and development the ammo companies are doing...let it be the factory shooters /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="blackco, post: 140638, member: 7356"] CatShooter, I'm REALLY not trying to be argumentative and it's off the origainal subject but...I’m a victim of the 80’s when marketing/business was all the rage. It may be cynical but most successful businesses are steered by the “bean counters.” You are absolutely correct; the shooters that shoot a lot are handloaders. But for each one of the guys on this board (my heroes) who are shooting tens of thousands of rounds a year there are 1000 guys like me who only get the chance to shoot 500-1000 rounds a year. And for every guy like me there are...you see where I’m going. My father has been reloading since the 60’s. For him reloading was a means to an end (good ammo for his guns). Now he gets acceptable results from factory ammo (.5 MOA in a 300wm Sendero) for his hunting (3 elk/4 shots between 500-700yds). I would say he shoots about 1000 rounds a year bought right off the store shelf. And there are many people out there just like him. I also know there are guys out there who have 6 rounds left in a box of 20 because they have killed 13 deer in the last 13 years with that box (1 round to check zero after a fall). I just did some math using prices from Midway (just for comparison. I know this isn’t scientific, I can think of about 8 variables that would change this. A box of 300wm ammo with Trophy Bonded Bear Claws=$43.99/box. If I buy the components, including new brass, to reload the same ammo it costs $38.80/20. That is an additional 12% in profits for the manufacturer, $5.28/box. That goes up to 31% if I reuse my own brass, even more if I buy in bulk, etc. People who shoot “a lot,” reload. But “a lot” of people shoot factory ammo. Speaking purely business again, the profit margin for loaded ammo is greater than for the components. I don't understand it but there are a lot of people out there shooting factory ammo, I haven't shot a factory loaded centerfire round in over 20 years. It doesn't make sense to me. The people I work around are sick of me preaching the benifits of reloading and I am tired of the "lame" (my opinion) excuses for not reloading. I feel anyone who shoots more than about 50 rounds a year would benifit from reloading. Rifle, ?$1000? Box of reloads, $38.80 Gas to get you there, $159.00 Satisfaction from putting venison on the table with a bullet you rolled yourself, or, hitting a target/varmint at XXXX yards with a round you rolled yourself, PRICELESS!!! !!!EVERY!!! shooting industry business I have ever dealt with has been nothing but wonderful to me. But don't underestimate what some businesses do to save/make a buck. Somebody has to finance all the great research and development the ammo companies are doing...let it be the factory shooters [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]
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