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<blockquote data-quote="thechamp" data-source="post: 1773944" data-attributes="member: 5510"><p>Long day yesterday but I did get in touch with him. Phone connection wasn't real good since he was out in the boonies at a shoot. He did clarify that the Z8 and the upper powers in the Z6 have High Definition (HD) glass which is a different glass than any of the other lower powered scopes. In the Z6 lineup the 1-6x24, 1.7-10x42 and 2-12x50 do NOT have the HD glass. Starting with the 2.5-14x44 and up through the 5-30x50 the Z6 models have the HD glass. I knew this at one time and forgot it over the years... so now it makes sense that I can see extremely well in low light with the 5-30 as long as I keep the power range turned down between 5-8, maybe up to 10 depending on available light. </p><p></p><p>The Z8s all have the HD lenses so they do provide for a lot more light pass through. Not guaranteeing that I heard him right but from what I gathered the HD has more 'crystal' in it which allows for the light to go through better. One comment I found on line in an ad stated that the HD glass enhanced the contrast and resolution as well as virtually eliminating color fringing. They allow for razor sharp focus of an image to the extreme edges of the FOV. In laymen terms it gives you a full picture without the dark edge around the FOV. That part I can attest to. A fellow hunter looked through one of my 5-30x50s a few years back and said that it was so much clearer and precise than what the naked eye could see. Most good scopes tend to clear things up better than what our eyes see but these go further than any others I've seen. I especially like not having the black edge around the picture.</p><p></p><p>I did have a Zeiss HT 3-12x56 a few years back and in low light the Z6 2.5-15x56 was a tad clearer than the HT. Plus the Swarovski had a focus for the eye and a parallax adjustment allowing you to fine tune what you were looking at. The Zeiss gave you a choice of a fine tuned target or a fine tuned eyepiece. Later their V8 models gave you both but I'm committed to the Swarovski models especially with their weight advantage over the V8 Zeiss models. Have several friends who love their V8 models. Never even looked through one out in the field so I can't say anything either way.</p><p></p><p>I mentioned that you'd experienced some issues with Z5s, etc., with less light and he said that was very unusual and indicated something was amiss and to send them in and have them gone through. They pride themselves on having an excellent reputation for service, etc. They don't want any of their optics out in the field to have issues since they would reflect back on the company in a negative light. </p><p></p><p>Next time your at a large show where Swarovski has their own display you might want to go visit with their reps. They know their products and usually have some on hand that you can put your hands on. </p><p></p><p>Hope this helped...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thechamp, post: 1773944, member: 5510"] Long day yesterday but I did get in touch with him. Phone connection wasn't real good since he was out in the boonies at a shoot. He did clarify that the Z8 and the upper powers in the Z6 have High Definition (HD) glass which is a different glass than any of the other lower powered scopes. In the Z6 lineup the 1-6x24, 1.7-10x42 and 2-12x50 do NOT have the HD glass. Starting with the 2.5-14x44 and up through the 5-30x50 the Z6 models have the HD glass. I knew this at one time and forgot it over the years... so now it makes sense that I can see extremely well in low light with the 5-30 as long as I keep the power range turned down between 5-8, maybe up to 10 depending on available light. The Z8s all have the HD lenses so they do provide for a lot more light pass through. Not guaranteeing that I heard him right but from what I gathered the HD has more 'crystal' in it which allows for the light to go through better. One comment I found on line in an ad stated that the HD glass enhanced the contrast and resolution as well as virtually eliminating color fringing. They allow for razor sharp focus of an image to the extreme edges of the FOV. In laymen terms it gives you a full picture without the dark edge around the FOV. That part I can attest to. A fellow hunter looked through one of my 5-30x50s a few years back and said that it was so much clearer and precise than what the naked eye could see. Most good scopes tend to clear things up better than what our eyes see but these go further than any others I've seen. I especially like not having the black edge around the picture. I did have a Zeiss HT 3-12x56 a few years back and in low light the Z6 2.5-15x56 was a tad clearer than the HT. Plus the Swarovski had a focus for the eye and a parallax adjustment allowing you to fine tune what you were looking at. The Zeiss gave you a choice of a fine tuned target or a fine tuned eyepiece. Later their V8 models gave you both but I'm committed to the Swarovski models especially with their weight advantage over the V8 Zeiss models. Have several friends who love their V8 models. Never even looked through one out in the field so I can't say anything either way. I mentioned that you'd experienced some issues with Z5s, etc., with less light and he said that was very unusual and indicated something was amiss and to send them in and have them gone through. They pride themselves on having an excellent reputation for service, etc. They don't want any of their optics out in the field to have issues since they would reflect back on the company in a negative light. Next time your at a large show where Swarovski has their own display you might want to go visit with their reps. They know their products and usually have some on hand that you can put your hands on. Hope this helped... [/QUOTE]
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