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<blockquote data-quote="Alibiiv" data-source="post: 1593524" data-attributes="member: 69192"><p>Hi Tom, yes actually there are two being built (my son's Christmas present is one) as we speak. Presently the hold up is with the two+ month wait for the Lilja barrels. The gunsmith said that his shop is just down the street from Lilja factory, however it doesn't make any difference. I called the gunsmith last week to see if he'd started the rifles because we wanted to make some bluing changes, and he hadn't due to not getting the barrels in. When we get the rifles back there's going to be another wait for Whidden dies, would like to get the rifles up and running before next November's deer season. When I originally bought the first rifle as a donor rifle, at that time a caliber had not been decided on; but I knew that I wanted a wildcat cartridge. I had .270 Winchester dies, brass and bullets and decided that I would shoot the donor rifle. When I shot the rifle I was impressed with how accurate it was and found it to be a pleasure to shoot. At the time the trend/designer round was on the .280 Ackley Improved SAAMI, and I was going to build a .280AI. Then I got into the Ackley SAAMI and the Ackley Wildcat confusion. I guess that I am slow because it took me a month or two to figure out the differences between the two rounds especially with all the misinformation that I did find. While doing the research in the cartridge I checked out the price and availability for the brass and was not happy with the cost of brass. Availability was a consideration when deciding on a caliber; at $80 for 50 .280AI casings it certainly was a consideration. With that in mind I started doing some research with the limited data on the .270AI. To me I believe that good .270 Winchester brass will always be available, and I didn't want to be held hostage by a manufacturer for brass.</p><p></p><p>There was a lot of "bad" information on the round due to Ackley's own 50+ year old comment that it wasn't worth building because it already was an overbore cartridge. But I figured that was 50+ years ago and the powders that we presently have we not available back then. As for the overbore comment by Ackley, I have trouble with .270AI was overbore while the .280AI is a great wildcat; I don't believe that .007 thousandths of an inch is going to make that much difference. I asked how one cartridge could be the best thing since "socks and underwear" (.280AI), and the other round be overbore (.270AAI). My feelings were that I was happy with what I was getting out of the .270 Win, if I could get to those ballistics or better I would be happy with that. Starting out with the .270 Winchester's maximum load to develop a load I felt that there was no way I could go wrong to get at least or more out of the round, and the .270AI build is on a 26 inch barrel. And last but not least I have always wanted a wildcat round to reload. I've been really having fun researching and purchasing tools to make accurate reloads with. There's lots of measuring tools that I should have had on the reloading bench, however I wasn't really aware of their value in making accurate reloads until I started this entire wildcat journey. Long answer to a quick question.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alibiiv, post: 1593524, member: 69192"] Hi Tom, yes actually there are two being built (my son's Christmas present is one) as we speak. Presently the hold up is with the two+ month wait for the Lilja barrels. The gunsmith said that his shop is just down the street from Lilja factory, however it doesn't make any difference. I called the gunsmith last week to see if he'd started the rifles because we wanted to make some bluing changes, and he hadn't due to not getting the barrels in. When we get the rifles back there's going to be another wait for Whidden dies, would like to get the rifles up and running before next November's deer season. When I originally bought the first rifle as a donor rifle, at that time a caliber had not been decided on; but I knew that I wanted a wildcat cartridge. I had .270 Winchester dies, brass and bullets and decided that I would shoot the donor rifle. When I shot the rifle I was impressed with how accurate it was and found it to be a pleasure to shoot. At the time the trend/designer round was on the .280 Ackley Improved SAAMI, and I was going to build a .280AI. Then I got into the Ackley SAAMI and the Ackley Wildcat confusion. I guess that I am slow because it took me a month or two to figure out the differences between the two rounds especially with all the misinformation that I did find. While doing the research in the cartridge I checked out the price and availability for the brass and was not happy with the cost of brass. Availability was a consideration when deciding on a caliber; at $80 for 50 .280AI casings it certainly was a consideration. With that in mind I started doing some research with the limited data on the .270AI. To me I believe that good .270 Winchester brass will always be available, and I didn't want to be held hostage by a manufacturer for brass. There was a lot of "bad" information on the round due to Ackley's own 50+ year old comment that it wasn't worth building because it already was an overbore cartridge. But I figured that was 50+ years ago and the powders that we presently have we not available back then. As for the overbore comment by Ackley, I have trouble with .270AI was overbore while the .280AI is a great wildcat; I don't believe that .007 thousandths of an inch is going to make that much difference. I asked how one cartridge could be the best thing since "socks and underwear" (.280AI), and the other round be overbore (.270AAI). My feelings were that I was happy with what I was getting out of the .270 Win, if I could get to those ballistics or better I would be happy with that. Starting out with the .270 Winchester's maximum load to develop a load I felt that there was no way I could go wrong to get at least or more out of the round, and the .270AI build is on a 26 inch barrel. And last but not least I have always wanted a wildcat round to reload. I've been really having fun researching and purchasing tools to make accurate reloads with. There's lots of measuring tools that I should have had on the reloading bench, however I wasn't really aware of their value in making accurate reloads until I started this entire wildcat journey. Long answer to a quick question. [/QUOTE]
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