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<blockquote data-quote="kraky2" data-source="post: 69764" data-attributes="member: 3532"><p>Goodgrouper and Fiftydriver- You guys are right and I was wrong---to a degree. MY point (and I made it badly) was that for the average guy with an average hunting rifle standard dies with some tuning will make excellent hunting ammo for any reasonable hunting situation. My attempt was to point out his efforts at accuracy gains would probably be better spent at working with different loads and seating depths, practice, working with a clean gun etc. YES, the benchrest crowd does use firarms of a different quality than the average hunting rifle and will benefit from ammo produced in match grade dies. And benchrest matches are won by tiny margins and are not shot in normal hunting conditions. BUT this also requires (Usually) that the benchrest shooter do alot of work with his brass sorting..... neck thickness etc. I sensed and possibly wrongly that the original poster wasn't a benchrest shooter. I kind of sensed that he was looking to improve his ability in the field.</p><p>My best "claim to fame" for reloading was a one shot kill made by a friend of mine which got him his grand slam of sheep. The range was lasered @ 683 yards. He was on a hunt in Mexico (very expensive). The gun he used was a custom made 270 wby by Rifles inc. It was topped with a scope that had a custom reticle by Premier Reticles with mildots for long range shooting. NOW the fancy part.....the bullet was a $.15 cent hornady 150 grain made on $20 hornady dies. When I make him ammo I always sort it by loaded runnout and mark bullets with less than .002" runnout with a green marker on the primer. I tell him to use these bullets for his hunts but he tells me his gun shoots all of them amazingly well. The point of all my rambling is dies are really the small part of a total accuracy equation for the average hunter and hunting rifle. There are far more "make or break" inputs that need to be ironed out before the dies eak out that last tiny bit of accuracy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kraky2, post: 69764, member: 3532"] Goodgrouper and Fiftydriver- You guys are right and I was wrong---to a degree. MY point (and I made it badly) was that for the average guy with an average hunting rifle standard dies with some tuning will make excellent hunting ammo for any reasonable hunting situation. My attempt was to point out his efforts at accuracy gains would probably be better spent at working with different loads and seating depths, practice, working with a clean gun etc. YES, the benchrest crowd does use firarms of a different quality than the average hunting rifle and will benefit from ammo produced in match grade dies. And benchrest matches are won by tiny margins and are not shot in normal hunting conditions. BUT this also requires (Usually) that the benchrest shooter do alot of work with his brass sorting..... neck thickness etc. I sensed and possibly wrongly that the original poster wasn't a benchrest shooter. I kind of sensed that he was looking to improve his ability in the field. My best "claim to fame" for reloading was a one shot kill made by a friend of mine which got him his grand slam of sheep. The range was lasered @ 683 yards. He was on a hunt in Mexico (very expensive). The gun he used was a custom made 270 wby by Rifles inc. It was topped with a scope that had a custom reticle by Premier Reticles with mildots for long range shooting. NOW the fancy part.....the bullet was a $.15 cent hornady 150 grain made on $20 hornady dies. When I make him ammo I always sort it by loaded runnout and mark bullets with less than .002" runnout with a green marker on the primer. I tell him to use these bullets for his hunts but he tells me his gun shoots all of them amazingly well. The point of all my rambling is dies are really the small part of a total accuracy equation for the average hunter and hunting rifle. There are far more "make or break" inputs that need to be ironed out before the dies eak out that last tiny bit of accuracy. [/QUOTE]
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