i would like to thank outofayr and chas1 for welcoming me to the forum. it is plain to see that i have no idea of what i am doing since i posted for the contest in the wrong spot. and of yet, since i am no computer wiz i have yet to figure out how to get there. i am not a hunter, but i like to be able to do long range shooting. there are not many places in north central arkansas for that, just too many hills in the way. i enjoy target shooting when i can, which is not often enough. i am learning gunsmithing so that i can work on my own firearms. i got hooked so to speak on shooting when i was in the air force. i worked security police around nukes most of my time. and since i carried there and had to practice all the time and that is what got me into the shooting. anyway thanks for welcoming me to the forum.gun)