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CEB 140grn G10 MTH & 6.5 WSM-
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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 827381" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>I would not take what I posted as proof positive because of the small sample size, heck I don't and I shot them into the berm! Nor would I say that you should stop shooting them, they are a dang good bullet but not up to the task I'm asking them to do, I do feel that if I can get one into a jug of water and let the nose experience hydraulic action it may open, unlike cup and core bullets mashing the nose over does not expose softer bullet so it really needs to open from and undamaged tip. I'm not writing them of entirely for sure, just for the intended purpose of this particular rifle which is being capable of doing an elk dirty at a grand with a 6.5 gun) </p><p></p><p>I hit the 2x6 three times and only found one bullet in the berm, all had clean holes like a drill through them, these bullets are stable without a doubt since I'm running a 1.6 stability factor. At my elevation I can easily run one inch less twist and be good and stable and I have had 100% straight clean holes at every range I've shot them. The bending comes because they are trying and usually successfully to porpoise up out of the dirt because they are not open, much like we find at 2000 yards with a 300gr SMK, every bullet will do it eventually at some range and speed.</p><p></p><p>I don't know what would help this bullet open better at range other than a tip, the copper is very soft so I don't think annealing would help like it did with the Matrix, a larger hole would help but that's not conducive to BC. I may be that just adding frontal area as in going to a 338 cal would be it and the 6.5 just won't make it that far, I have a 338 and some CEB's <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 827381, member: 13632"] I would not take what I posted as proof positive because of the small sample size, heck I don't and I shot them into the berm! Nor would I say that you should stop shooting them, they are a dang good bullet but not up to the task I'm asking them to do, I do feel that if I can get one into a jug of water and let the nose experience hydraulic action it may open, unlike cup and core bullets mashing the nose over does not expose softer bullet so it really needs to open from and undamaged tip. I'm not writing them of entirely for sure, just for the intended purpose of this particular rifle which is being capable of doing an elk dirty at a grand with a 6.5 gun) I hit the 2x6 three times and only found one bullet in the berm, all had clean holes like a drill through them, these bullets are stable without a doubt since I'm running a 1.6 stability factor. At my elevation I can easily run one inch less twist and be good and stable and I have had 100% straight clean holes at every range I've shot them. The bending comes because they are trying and usually successfully to porpoise up out of the dirt because they are not open, much like we find at 2000 yards with a 300gr SMK, every bullet will do it eventually at some range and speed. I don't know what would help this bullet open better at range other than a tip, the copper is very soft so I don't think annealing would help like it did with the Matrix, a larger hole would help but that's not conducive to BC. I may be that just adding frontal area as in going to a 338 cal would be it and the 6.5 just won't make it that far, I have a 338 and some CEB's :D [/QUOTE]
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