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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 608580" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>Speed kills and accuracy is in the rifle and not the cartridge. If you are looking to hunt long range look at your odds. Say at 1200 yards you shoot a 9" group. You are in a 15" kill zone for say 12 yards as the bullet drops through it. You are severely limited on making a hit. Say 200 fps more velocity keeps you in the kill zone 4 more yards to 16 yards. Now considering your group size and all other factors at that range like elevation, angle and atmospheric conditions you have a slim chance of making that kill repeatedly. The 200 fps going from 12 yards to 16 through the kill zone gives you precious inches and a 25% better chance of making that kill with slim odds to begin with. </p><p> </p><p>The rifle is accurate not the cartridge, brass is not in the equation to make this shot, it purely comes down to velocity and accuracy. I go with the best odds to make any shot in a hunting situation. Velocity is a critical part of that and 200 fps is important to give you more time through the kill zone. Many cartridges can make the shot. But which one gives you the best odds of making the shot is the question. </p><p> </p><p>Some guys wonder why some hunters just seem to take far more than their share of nice trophies. Some get very jealous and smart ones start trying to figure that out. Always put yourself in the best area possible to produce a nice animal with equipment that gives you the best odds of making the shot when the opportunity comes. The cost of my brass and bullets is so negligible in the equation it is not even a consideration. The only consideration for me is what will perform best within the weight limitations I have on a weapon.</p><p> </p><p>Now if a guy wants mostly a target rifle to shoot a lot then parameters change. As far as barrel life I still hunt with the first 338-378 wby I built in the 80's. Barrel life is excellent with the 338-378 but that is not a parameter either. When I get a shot at that trophy I never think about how much barrel life I have remaining. Again, the only thing that matters if you want to be the most succesful hunter you can be is having the best weapon in your hands with the best capability and odds of making any shot you are presented with. All that other crap just doesn't matter at all when it comes down to one chance at that B&C animal.</p><p> </p><p>Just to finish up:</p><p> </p><p>If you are looking at long range hunting to 1000 plus yards the two most important choices to make is be sure you get a 338 or 375 caliber. Those two calibers give you the best odds of killing what you are shooting at in a rifle weight that is tolerable. Then you want the cartridge that gives you the most velocity in the weight range of a weapon you can carry and actually hunt hard with all day. Remember the rifle is accurate and not the cartridge.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 608580, member: 505"] Speed kills and accuracy is in the rifle and not the cartridge. If you are looking to hunt long range look at your odds. Say at 1200 yards you shoot a 9" group. You are in a 15" kill zone for say 12 yards as the bullet drops through it. You are severely limited on making a hit. Say 200 fps more velocity keeps you in the kill zone 4 more yards to 16 yards. Now considering your group size and all other factors at that range like elevation, angle and atmospheric conditions you have a slim chance of making that kill repeatedly. The 200 fps going from 12 yards to 16 through the kill zone gives you precious inches and a 25% better chance of making that kill with slim odds to begin with. The rifle is accurate not the cartridge, brass is not in the equation to make this shot, it purely comes down to velocity and accuracy. I go with the best odds to make any shot in a hunting situation. Velocity is a critical part of that and 200 fps is important to give you more time through the kill zone. Many cartridges can make the shot. But which one gives you the best odds of making the shot is the question. Some guys wonder why some hunters just seem to take far more than their share of nice trophies. Some get very jealous and smart ones start trying to figure that out. Always put yourself in the best area possible to produce a nice animal with equipment that gives you the best odds of making the shot when the opportunity comes. The cost of my brass and bullets is so negligible in the equation it is not even a consideration. The only consideration for me is what will perform best within the weight limitations I have on a weapon. Now if a guy wants mostly a target rifle to shoot a lot then parameters change. As far as barrel life I still hunt with the first 338-378 wby I built in the 80's. Barrel life is excellent with the 338-378 but that is not a parameter either. When I get a shot at that trophy I never think about how much barrel life I have remaining. Again, the only thing that matters if you want to be the most succesful hunter you can be is having the best weapon in your hands with the best capability and odds of making any shot you are presented with. All that other crap just doesn't matter at all when it comes down to one chance at that B&C animal. Just to finish up: If you are looking at long range hunting to 1000 plus yards the two most important choices to make is be sure you get a 338 or 375 caliber. Those two calibers give you the best odds of killing what you are shooting at in a rifle weight that is tolerable. Then you want the cartridge that gives you the most velocity in the weight range of a weapon you can carry and actually hunt hard with all day. Remember the rifle is accurate and not the cartridge. [/QUOTE]
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