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<blockquote data-quote="Bob Beck" data-source="post: 653350" data-attributes="member: 41555"><p>Guys,</p><p></p><p>Thanks for all the questions! I will just reflect on my direct experience with the Hybrid designed bullets over the last three months of hunting so that I do not mis-state anything, or give fairy tell success stories.</p><p></p><p>I have been using the 338's for a while now like everyone else. I much preferred the gen 1 bullets to the gen 2, simply for the jacket thickness. Now this will soon be meaningless with the new hybrid hunting bullets on the way. So the question was, did I think the hybrids performed like the VLD's? At first I was skeptical that it was the design of a VLD that made it work so well. But after being able to fire a whole bunch of hybrids into animals, I now no longer have that opinion. It clearly is the alloy mixture that make Berger Bullets work every time. Plus obviously the ability to retain their velocity doesn't hurt!</p><p></p><p>For the hunts I have been on this year so far, a bear hunt, Barbary sheep, 3 stags, 2 fallow, Thar, Chamios, feral goat, arrapaw sheep, over 20 wallabies, and over 70 free range goats. The bullets of choice for these hunts/tests were all 30 cal stuff in the 185, to 230 grain offerings. We used our EOL/McMillan Rifles in 300. All the animals died on the first shot, except one fallow, and one stag that I hit to far back. They were dead on there feet, but I hurried and put a second one in them to make sure. Now to far back meaning hips, and rump, to far back. Everything that clipped the guts fell right down, and still died almost immediately. The rump shots were due to either I fouled up on the wind for a hurried shot, or did not read their body language correct at the shot and they turned in flight time.</p><p></p><p>For the 230 I am using so far it has been the target. Not that the jacket is any different then the OTM, just the nose design for a little higher B.C. Now one important thing I would like to mention, is that I noticed the 230 traveling 3000 fps out of my 26" bbl took away some of my concerns about the thicker jackets. I was apprehensive at first from working with the thicker jacketed 338 bullets traveling 2800 fps and slower. But now seeing how velocity was able to manipulate how the bullet performed in our tests, that has gone away. I feel the hybrid design is a solid winner for guys who want the VLD performance without the critical seating depth headache, and in the new hunting jackets, there are going to be off the charts incredible, I'm sure of it...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bob Beck, post: 653350, member: 41555"] Guys, Thanks for all the questions! I will just reflect on my direct experience with the Hybrid designed bullets over the last three months of hunting so that I do not mis-state anything, or give fairy tell success stories. I have been using the 338's for a while now like everyone else. I much preferred the gen 1 bullets to the gen 2, simply for the jacket thickness. Now this will soon be meaningless with the new hybrid hunting bullets on the way. So the question was, did I think the hybrids performed like the VLD's? At first I was skeptical that it was the design of a VLD that made it work so well. But after being able to fire a whole bunch of hybrids into animals, I now no longer have that opinion. It clearly is the alloy mixture that make Berger Bullets work every time. Plus obviously the ability to retain their velocity doesn't hurt! For the hunts I have been on this year so far, a bear hunt, Barbary sheep, 3 stags, 2 fallow, Thar, Chamios, feral goat, arrapaw sheep, over 20 wallabies, and over 70 free range goats. The bullets of choice for these hunts/tests were all 30 cal stuff in the 185, to 230 grain offerings. We used our EOL/McMillan Rifles in 300. All the animals died on the first shot, except one fallow, and one stag that I hit to far back. They were dead on there feet, but I hurried and put a second one in them to make sure. Now to far back meaning hips, and rump, to far back. Everything that clipped the guts fell right down, and still died almost immediately. The rump shots were due to either I fouled up on the wind for a hurried shot, or did not read their body language correct at the shot and they turned in flight time. For the 230 I am using so far it has been the target. Not that the jacket is any different then the OTM, just the nose design for a little higher B.C. Now one important thing I would like to mention, is that I noticed the 230 traveling 3000 fps out of my 26" bbl took away some of my concerns about the thicker jackets. I was apprehensive at first from working with the thicker jacketed 338 bullets traveling 2800 fps and slower. But now seeing how velocity was able to manipulate how the bullet performed in our tests, that has gone away. I feel the hybrid design is a solid winner for guys who want the VLD performance without the critical seating depth headache, and in the new hunting jackets, there are going to be off the charts incredible, I'm sure of it... [/QUOTE]
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