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<blockquote data-quote="sportmuaythai" data-source="post: 596118" data-attributes="member: 17802"><p>I'd like to chime in, but it's just a humble opinion, and not a gospel. Of all American animals I've killed or seen killed, I think that elk is the toughest to kill, particularly when they are adrenalin surged. I've seen clips of very long range elk that dropped DRT, which surprised me very much. Then I realized that these bulls were not aware that they were targeted, and relaxed. I would assume that at 50-100 yards, the bull was extremely aware. On my first evening of my first African hunt, my PH showed me a very good impala buck amidst a herd of females and young males. The range was 40-50 yards, and the impala was intensely looking at me. At the shot, there was a big commotion and when the dust settled, no impala. No trace of blood either. However, my PH said that he saw the impala flinched at the shot. After futile search, my PH brought in his best tracker. This tracker carefully combed the area and traced the foot print of the buck. After almost half an hour, he found a tiny speck of blood ( probably similar to <strong>300winniemag<strong>'s</strong>) </strong>on a grass blade, quite a distance from where it was shot shot. Then no blood trail again for another 30-50 yards. Then the PH and tracker found more bloods along the trail and finally the impala. The autopsy showed that the top of his heart was blown off, but he kept running for about 200 yards before he succumbed. </p><p>A year later, I was shooting impala for leopard bait in Zambia. I asked my friend to bring Federal Premium cartridges, which just came out with Nosler PT. Unfortunately he brought Fed Hydrashock. I used to shoot for the front shoulder, and in horror, I watched several impalas had their shoulders blown, but the bullets did not penetrate. These had to be finished with rib shot into the lungs. These were easy 40-50 yards shots. I assume that you need to match the terminal speed to the bullet for it to do its job. While Bergers VLD may be flawless at 350-1000 yards, the TSX may do a better at <350 yards.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sportmuaythai, post: 596118, member: 17802"] I'd like to chime in, but it's just a humble opinion, and not a gospel. Of all American animals I've killed or seen killed, I think that elk is the toughest to kill, particularly when they are adrenalin surged. I've seen clips of very long range elk that dropped DRT, which surprised me very much. Then I realized that these bulls were not aware that they were targeted, and relaxed. I would assume that at 50-100 yards, the bull was extremely aware. On my first evening of my first African hunt, my PH showed me a very good impala buck amidst a herd of females and young males. The range was 40-50 yards, and the impala was intensely looking at me. At the shot, there was a big commotion and when the dust settled, no impala. No trace of blood either. However, my PH said that he saw the impala flinched at the shot. After futile search, my PH brought in his best tracker. This tracker carefully combed the area and traced the foot print of the buck. After almost half an hour, he found a tiny speck of blood ( probably similar to [B]300winniemag[B]'s[/B]) [/B]on a grass blade, quite a distance from where it was shot shot. Then no blood trail again for another 30-50 yards. Then the PH and tracker found more bloods along the trail and finally the impala. The autopsy showed that the top of his heart was blown off, but he kept running for about 200 yards before he succumbed. A year later, I was shooting impala for leopard bait in Zambia. I asked my friend to bring Federal Premium cartridges, which just came out with Nosler PT. Unfortunately he brought Fed Hydrashock. I used to shoot for the front shoulder, and in horror, I watched several impalas had their shoulders blown, but the bullets did not penetrate. These had to be finished with rib shot into the lungs. These were easy 40-50 yards shots. I assume that you need to match the terminal speed to the bullet for it to do its job. While Bergers VLD may be flawless at 350-1000 yards, the TSX may do a better at <350 yards. [/QUOTE]
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