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Berger Bullets vs TSX bullets
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<blockquote data-quote="FAL Shot" data-source="post: 573939" data-attributes="member: 27328"><p>Instead of trying to decide if you will load your rifle with a hard or soft hunting bullet, why not do what I do. The first three bullets into the magazine are long soft high BC bullets for long range shots. The last two bullets loaded are a Partition or a GameKing, depending where I am hunting and what might show up at close range unexpectedly.</p><p> </p><p>If you are in bear country (Partition) or in mountain lion country (GameKing), then you have the bullet on hand and in the chamber for the job if attacked, and a spare if you miss. You will probably not get more than two chances.</p><p> </p><p>If you come upon long range game, you have plenty of time to eject two rounds and chamber one of your long range rounds. If you are hunting in wide open prairie or from a tree stand, then there is no need to have hard bullets in your chamber or mag. Would still be a good idea to have some handy for your walk out if going through country with hiding cover.</p><p> </p><p>The problem is finding two bullets and a load that will work together to the same or very near zero. Mine both zero at 200 yards, which is their crossover point. Further than that....use soft bullet. Closer than that....use harder bullet.</p><p> </p><p>In .224 caliber, the two bullets are the Swift Scirocco II 75 grain and the Hornady Match 75 grain BTHP. They take slightly different powder loads as they have slightly different BC's.</p><p> </p><p>In 7mm Caliber, the two bullets are Hornady A-Max 162 grain and the Sierra 140 GameKing. I would have preferred the 150 GameKing, but I had a couple boxes of the 140 GameKings on hand. Powder loads are again different to get the same zero at 200 yards. This is a prairie combo.</p><p> </p><p>Another combo in 7mm caliber, the two bullets are Norma 150 SP factory loads and Nosler 150 Partition handloads. The crossover point is closer, at 100 yards, as this is a woods combo for closer shots. The zero matchup isn't as good, as it is impossible to match Norma factory loads due to their proprietary powder. As the Nosler Partition would be used 100 yards or closer, the small difference in zero does not matter. It is to have an unquestioned penetration round for whatever comes up at close range. This is a woods combo.</p><p> </p><p>The .308 caliber combo is Nosler 150 BT and Nosler 165 Accubond. These are loaded into two separate magazines, as they are for a semi-auto rifle. The 165 Accubond mag is always in rifle, unless special circumstances would dictate a switch to 150 BT. Plastic tipped bullets are better than lead nosed bullets in autoloaders for increased feed reliability and freedom from nose deformation. The Accubond was made to perform very similarly to the Partition on game with better accuracy at long range similar to a BT. If I had a high likelihood of a bear encounter, the semi-auto rifle will be carried as it is far more reliable and faster loading than a bolt gun in the hands of a frightened person. I could just as well use the 165 Accubonds for everything, but I had hundreds of 150 BT I need to shoot up. Varmints will meet (meat) that bullet.</p><p> </p><p>You could just as well partner Berger bullets with TSX bullets if your rifle shoots both well and you are able to arrive at a near zero match at your intended crossover point.</p><p> </p><p>Be prepared to go through lots of bullets and several different powder combinations to get something similar worked up. It was a summer project for me. Sometimes a change in powder load does the trick, but likely you will need a powder load weight AND powder type difference between the two bullets.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FAL Shot, post: 573939, member: 27328"] Instead of trying to decide if you will load your rifle with a hard or soft hunting bullet, why not do what I do. The first three bullets into the magazine are long soft high BC bullets for long range shots. The last two bullets loaded are a Partition or a GameKing, depending where I am hunting and what might show up at close range unexpectedly. If you are in bear country (Partition) or in mountain lion country (GameKing), then you have the bullet on hand and in the chamber for the job if attacked, and a spare if you miss. You will probably not get more than two chances. If you come upon long range game, you have plenty of time to eject two rounds and chamber one of your long range rounds. If you are hunting in wide open prairie or from a tree stand, then there is no need to have hard bullets in your chamber or mag. Would still be a good idea to have some handy for your walk out if going through country with hiding cover. The problem is finding two bullets and a load that will work together to the same or very near zero. Mine both zero at 200 yards, which is their crossover point. Further than that....use soft bullet. Closer than that....use harder bullet. In .224 caliber, the two bullets are the Swift Scirocco II 75 grain and the Hornady Match 75 grain BTHP. They take slightly different powder loads as they have slightly different BC's. In 7mm Caliber, the two bullets are Hornady A-Max 162 grain and the Sierra 140 GameKing. I would have preferred the 150 GameKing, but I had a couple boxes of the 140 GameKings on hand. Powder loads are again different to get the same zero at 200 yards. This is a prairie combo. Another combo in 7mm caliber, the two bullets are Norma 150 SP factory loads and Nosler 150 Partition handloads. The crossover point is closer, at 100 yards, as this is a woods combo for closer shots. The zero matchup isn't as good, as it is impossible to match Norma factory loads due to their proprietary powder. As the Nosler Partition would be used 100 yards or closer, the small difference in zero does not matter. It is to have an unquestioned penetration round for whatever comes up at close range. This is a woods combo. The .308 caliber combo is Nosler 150 BT and Nosler 165 Accubond. These are loaded into two separate magazines, as they are for a semi-auto rifle. The 165 Accubond mag is always in rifle, unless special circumstances would dictate a switch to 150 BT. Plastic tipped bullets are better than lead nosed bullets in autoloaders for increased feed reliability and freedom from nose deformation. The Accubond was made to perform very similarly to the Partition on game with better accuracy at long range similar to a BT. If I had a high likelihood of a bear encounter, the semi-auto rifle will be carried as it is far more reliable and faster loading than a bolt gun in the hands of a frightened person. I could just as well use the 165 Accubonds for everything, but I had hundreds of 150 BT I need to shoot up. Varmints will meet (meat) that bullet. You could just as well partner Berger bullets with TSX bullets if your rifle shoots both well and you are able to arrive at a near zero match at your intended crossover point. Be prepared to go through lots of bullets and several different powder combinations to get something similar worked up. It was a summer project for me. Sometimes a change in powder load does the trick, but likely you will need a powder load weight AND powder type difference between the two bullets. [/QUOTE]
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