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<blockquote data-quote="Steve Shelp" data-source="post: 175988" data-attributes="member: 22"><p>Vinny,</p><p> I've been around the long range competition game for quite awhile. I have shot and own all 3 bedding methods (split block, glued sleeve, and std barrel floating) and knowing your application of primarily for hunting at a much slower rate of fire you will never be able to tell the difference in the bedding method. So I would go with the std method knowing you are using the 2"x10" BAT action. My current HG is setup just this way. I use to shoot a 338 Yogi with a 1.850" dia x 32" untapered barrel bedded this way on my BAT 2x10 action without a problem.</p><p></p><p> Each different method simply gives you different tuning nodes. When you tune to that node they all work. When your not tuned none of them are worth a hill of beans. There are theories about which are easier to tune up... but nobody could shoot enough ammo to statisically prove or disprove the theories anyway. So it all boils down to opinion and speculation.</p><p></p><p> But one important point that ewallace has already pointed out is putting a taper on the barrel. All my competition guns have tapers on them now and I won't build one without it going forward. I've seen enough data from the short range and long range BR game to say this is a benefit.</p><p> But the advantage of a tapered barrel isn't just reducing the stress of your barrel/action joint. The real advantages of this is your tuning nodes seem to be broader and it also moves the Cg of the whole rifle back so there is more weight on the butt section of the stock. This will reduce up/down tendancies of your rifle under recoil which in turn helps your groups. More weight on the butt section... the rifle is easier to shoot and will ride the bags better under recoil. That is turn means better groups down range.</p><p></p><p>I know a lot of guys don't like BR or any type of competition at all. But this is an example of one of the reasons why I love to also shoot in competition and not just plink/hunt at long range. You can gather a lot of data on certain situations very quickly by simply watching, asking, and listening at a match with 100s of guns being fired right in front of you. Then watch to match reports for the long term tendancies of whatever you were studying at the time.</p><p></p><p>Steve</p><p></p><p>PS - and having the added advantage of pulling a barrel off and installing another one in minutes is nice to have when usign the std bedding technique.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steve Shelp, post: 175988, member: 22"] Vinny, I've been around the long range competition game for quite awhile. I have shot and own all 3 bedding methods (split block, glued sleeve, and std barrel floating) and knowing your application of primarily for hunting at a much slower rate of fire you will never be able to tell the difference in the bedding method. So I would go with the std method knowing you are using the 2"x10" BAT action. My current HG is setup just this way. I use to shoot a 338 Yogi with a 1.850" dia x 32" untapered barrel bedded this way on my BAT 2x10 action without a problem. Each different method simply gives you different tuning nodes. When you tune to that node they all work. When your not tuned none of them are worth a hill of beans. There are theories about which are easier to tune up... but nobody could shoot enough ammo to statisically prove or disprove the theories anyway. So it all boils down to opinion and speculation. But one important point that ewallace has already pointed out is putting a taper on the barrel. All my competition guns have tapers on them now and I won't build one without it going forward. I've seen enough data from the short range and long range BR game to say this is a benefit. But the advantage of a tapered barrel isn't just reducing the stress of your barrel/action joint. The real advantages of this is your tuning nodes seem to be broader and it also moves the Cg of the whole rifle back so there is more weight on the butt section of the stock. This will reduce up/down tendancies of your rifle under recoil which in turn helps your groups. More weight on the butt section... the rifle is easier to shoot and will ride the bags better under recoil. That is turn means better groups down range. I know a lot of guys don't like BR or any type of competition at all. But this is an example of one of the reasons why I love to also shoot in competition and not just plink/hunt at long range. You can gather a lot of data on certain situations very quickly by simply watching, asking, and listening at a match with 100s of guns being fired right in front of you. Then watch to match reports for the long term tendancies of whatever you were studying at the time. Steve PS - and having the added advantage of pulling a barrel off and installing another one in minutes is nice to have when usign the std bedding technique. [/QUOTE]
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