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<blockquote data-quote="Mysticplayer" data-source="post: 78132" data-attributes="member: 8947"><p>Oops, forgot you need a password to get in.</p><p></p><p>Here is a reprint on my range test using a 45LC, Win 94 trapper, and Lee cast 325gr gas checked FN bullets. I like it.</p><p></p><p>Range Update. </p><p></p><p>Took the advice and made some water quenched bullets. Wow, what a difference. </p><p></p><p>At the same 35yd range, about 6" of dry phone book taped together and the three water filled milk jugs behind. </p><p></p><p>A solid centered hit and the first jug blows up, the second splits badly and the thirds cracks and get knocked off the stand. Bullet has made it nicely through it all. Back of the phone books shows some expansion and lots of tearing. </p><p></p><p>bottom line, the bullet stayed together way better then the air cooled wheel weights. Added another 50% in penetration and energy transfer. Very good accuracy, similar to the air cooled bullets. </p><p></p><p>Shot them off hand at 100 and 150yds. wouldn't want to be standing there. Off a rest, a deer would be a viable target for sure. Sure kicks up a lot of dust at these ranges. I think it would take any grass eater cleanly. </p><p></p><p>Water quenching is super easy. I drop the bullet on a towel. Wait about 10secs for it to really get solid. Pick it up with a spatula and drop it into a bucket of tap water. It sizzles just fine. </p><p></p><p>I don't like the idea of dropping from the mold as am afraid of splashing water onto the mold or worse, the lead pot. Also, the impact could distort the bullets a bit. </p><p></p><p>They definitely shrink as the sizing showed less of the bullet touching the die as the air cooled ones. No real issue with up close accuracy. Will do a comparison with my 308 cast rifle and see if water quenching makes the bullet distort/shoot worse. </p><p></p><p>There is little doubt for me that this combo will slow down a boo boo at close range. With the extra 9 rds in the tube, that is a lot of firepower. bonus is that you can still be effective out to 150+ yds if need be. </p><p></p><p>I love shooting this combo and am glad I am going this route instead of a slug shotgun. </p><p></p><p>325gr FP gas checked water quenched Lee bullet with liq alox coating, H110 enough to make it go 1575fps in a 16" Win 94 carbine, Starline brass, Win LP primer, Lee carbide FL sized. A sledgehammer that has very moderate recoil and accuracy to 150yds and further. </p><p></p><p>Jerry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mysticplayer, post: 78132, member: 8947"] Oops, forgot you need a password to get in. Here is a reprint on my range test using a 45LC, Win 94 trapper, and Lee cast 325gr gas checked FN bullets. I like it. Range Update. Took the advice and made some water quenched bullets. Wow, what a difference. At the same 35yd range, about 6" of dry phone book taped together and the three water filled milk jugs behind. A solid centered hit and the first jug blows up, the second splits badly and the thirds cracks and get knocked off the stand. Bullet has made it nicely through it all. Back of the phone books shows some expansion and lots of tearing. bottom line, the bullet stayed together way better then the air cooled wheel weights. Added another 50% in penetration and energy transfer. Very good accuracy, similar to the air cooled bullets. Shot them off hand at 100 and 150yds. wouldn't want to be standing there. Off a rest, a deer would be a viable target for sure. Sure kicks up a lot of dust at these ranges. I think it would take any grass eater cleanly. Water quenching is super easy. I drop the bullet on a towel. Wait about 10secs for it to really get solid. Pick it up with a spatula and drop it into a bucket of tap water. It sizzles just fine. I don't like the idea of dropping from the mold as am afraid of splashing water onto the mold or worse, the lead pot. Also, the impact could distort the bullets a bit. They definitely shrink as the sizing showed less of the bullet touching the die as the air cooled ones. No real issue with up close accuracy. Will do a comparison with my 308 cast rifle and see if water quenching makes the bullet distort/shoot worse. There is little doubt for me that this combo will slow down a boo boo at close range. With the extra 9 rds in the tube, that is a lot of firepower. bonus is that you can still be effective out to 150+ yds if need be. I love shooting this combo and am glad I am going this route instead of a slug shotgun. 325gr FP gas checked water quenched Lee bullet with liq alox coating, H110 enough to make it go 1575fps in a 16" Win 94 carbine, Starline brass, Win LP primer, Lee carbide FL sized. A sledgehammer that has very moderate recoil and accuracy to 150yds and further. Jerry [/QUOTE]
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