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<blockquote data-quote="jon.henry755" data-source="post: 561450" data-attributes="member: 29115"><p>Hi WildWillie,</p><p>Re-read item #1 on my thread. It states to use a distance of 15 yards. This is just the usual distance used but there are no hard fast rules that say it's the only distance that can be used.</p><p></p><p>Next, there are two different sets of small hex head screws that allow you to move or adjust your whisker biscuit if memory serves me correct. You have the large hex screws on the front of the crossbow where the Whisker Biscuit attached. These control your vertical movement and only have a slight amount of side to side movement, but you should also have a second set of smaller hex head screws which allow you to actually change the biscuit itself and these provide some additional movement. </p><p></p><p>For the record, I don't have a Whisker Biscuit on my crossbow any longer. I got rid of it at the first opportunity and changed it out for the QAD Drop Away Rest.</p><p>The reason is to eliminate what I believe to be the problem that you're currently experiencing. </p><p></p><p>My beleif is that every some many shots that you take, the Whisker Biscuit is going to apply a different amount of pressure to your arrow shaft as it attempts to launch an arrow through those bristles. As I've stated in writing numerous times, you have something called the "Archer's Paradox" taking place and with all the violent flexing back and forth, do you really believe the friction from all these bristles can remain consistent and not interfere with the uniform arrow shaft flexing that is taking place. If you do, you are a better believer than I am because my experience says quite the reverse. </p><p></p><p>Since changing out my arrow rest for the drop away, I no longer have any inconsistencies and no occasional fliers. We could argue that it's because all my spines are perfectly matched and all my arrow spines are aligned to my nocks. This could have a good deal to do with it it, but I am also willing to bet that getting rid of the restrictions and friction caused by the rest you are using goes a long way to correcting these problems also. </p><p></p><p>If I didn't think so, I wouldn't have changed my own rest out and I wouldn't be recommending it to others. Your front end is very limited as to what can cause these changes? I'm not a believer in the limbs being a culprit in all but the most extreme cases. Possibly one in a couple thousand cases. The biscuit however is an entirely different story. </p><p></p><p>I believe it can account for these type of deviations in performance in arrow flight in archery regardless if it was this situation or any other, on a very regular basis. </p><p></p><p>Knowing this was a problem historically and it's potential impact is exactly the reason I dumped the Whisker Biscuit type arrow rest as soon as a drop away replacement became available. The logic is simple; if a rest isn't there it can't interfere or be a problem during launch. Your arrows then have the abiliy to fly the way they were built to fly.</p><p></p><p>If you want to gamble on what causes this type of a problem you could suspect your limbs and you might be right one out of 50 times or you could suspect your arrows not being spine matched and your nocks not being indexed to the stiff side of each arrows spine and you'd probably be right more than 80 percent of the time. But if your arrows are not the problem, the low hanging fruit in the case of this problem will always be the arrow rest causing these problems, so you can chase it anyway you like, since it's your money, but if it were me, I'd consider the above information.</p><p></p><p>Once you change out the arrow rest you can also modify your crossbows Weaver Rail so you don't need to shoot 4 vane arrow configurations. You can shoot standard three vane arrows and achieve tighter groups and no more vanes rubbing anything. </p><p></p><p>If you are hunting, I do not recommend changing anything at the moment because no matter what you touch it's going to change the way your crossbow is shooting and this could affect your accuracy until to have it adjusted and tuned properly. </p><p></p><p>Wait until you are done with the hunting season and then make your customizations, so you have time to work on it without it affecting your hunting capabilities. </p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p></p><p>Jon</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jon.henry755, post: 561450, member: 29115"] Hi WildWillie, Re-read item #1 on my thread. It states to use a distance of 15 yards. This is just the usual distance used but there are no hard fast rules that say it's the only distance that can be used. Next, there are two different sets of small hex head screws that allow you to move or adjust your whisker biscuit if memory serves me correct. You have the large hex screws on the front of the crossbow where the Whisker Biscuit attached. These control your vertical movement and only have a slight amount of side to side movement, but you should also have a second set of smaller hex head screws which allow you to actually change the biscuit itself and these provide some additional movement. For the record, I don't have a Whisker Biscuit on my crossbow any longer. I got rid of it at the first opportunity and changed it out for the QAD Drop Away Rest. The reason is to eliminate what I believe to be the problem that you're currently experiencing. My beleif is that every some many shots that you take, the Whisker Biscuit is going to apply a different amount of pressure to your arrow shaft as it attempts to launch an arrow through those bristles. As I've stated in writing numerous times, you have something called the "Archer's Paradox" taking place and with all the violent flexing back and forth, do you really believe the friction from all these bristles can remain consistent and not interfere with the uniform arrow shaft flexing that is taking place. If you do, you are a better believer than I am because my experience says quite the reverse. Since changing out my arrow rest for the drop away, I no longer have any inconsistencies and no occasional fliers. We could argue that it's because all my spines are perfectly matched and all my arrow spines are aligned to my nocks. This could have a good deal to do with it it, but I am also willing to bet that getting rid of the restrictions and friction caused by the rest you are using goes a long way to correcting these problems also. If I didn't think so, I wouldn't have changed my own rest out and I wouldn't be recommending it to others. Your front end is very limited as to what can cause these changes? I'm not a believer in the limbs being a culprit in all but the most extreme cases. Possibly one in a couple thousand cases. The biscuit however is an entirely different story. I believe it can account for these type of deviations in performance in arrow flight in archery regardless if it was this situation or any other, on a very regular basis. Knowing this was a problem historically and it's potential impact is exactly the reason I dumped the Whisker Biscuit type arrow rest as soon as a drop away replacement became available. The logic is simple; if a rest isn't there it can't interfere or be a problem during launch. Your arrows then have the abiliy to fly the way they were built to fly. If you want to gamble on what causes this type of a problem you could suspect your limbs and you might be right one out of 50 times or you could suspect your arrows not being spine matched and your nocks not being indexed to the stiff side of each arrows spine and you'd probably be right more than 80 percent of the time. But if your arrows are not the problem, the low hanging fruit in the case of this problem will always be the arrow rest causing these problems, so you can chase it anyway you like, since it's your money, but if it were me, I'd consider the above information. Once you change out the arrow rest you can also modify your crossbows Weaver Rail so you don't need to shoot 4 vane arrow configurations. You can shoot standard three vane arrows and achieve tighter groups and no more vanes rubbing anything. If you are hunting, I do not recommend changing anything at the moment because no matter what you touch it's going to change the way your crossbow is shooting and this could affect your accuracy until to have it adjusted and tuned properly. Wait until you are done with the hunting season and then make your customizations, so you have time to work on it without it affecting your hunting capabilities. Regards, Jon [/QUOTE]
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