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<blockquote data-quote="BountyHunter" data-source="post: 601475" data-attributes="member: 12"><p>Counterpoint time</p><p> </p><p>Let's get real. No one is doing a complete action blueprint that will put it remotely close to a custom especialy for $100-150 but that is the myth that is constantly being perpetuated. You will get the front of the rcvr, lugs and maybe the threads. Forget bolt and raceway work. Forget extractor, bolt release or similar standard features of the custom.</p><p> </p><p>The term blueprinting is not defined and only means what that one Smith wants it to. That is 99% of the problem with saying blueprinting. A "complete action blueprint" to include raceway and bolt work will cost a minimum of $400-600 and still never be as good as the custom. It will not be as reliable and cost as much if not more when you look at the features between the two.</p><p> </p><p>A $100-150 blueprint is really a waste of money when you consider it does nothing for reliability with the stupid Remington riveted extractor that will break. My last rem action (new) extractor broke twice on hunts after being fixed at gbe factory. Now if your idea of a fun hunt is carrying a magazine single shot rifle and a cleaning rod to knock each case then go that route.</p><p> </p><p>My last custom was a Tooley Orion. Cost was $850 to me and in last year. Came with fluted bolt with M16 extractor, extended and threaded by handle all melonite coated. Extended bolt release, pinned heavy recoil lug and 8x48 scope base holes. Cut for aftermarket magazjne systems also.</p><p> </p><p>There is NO comparison in smoothness and reliability nor will that enter in the discussion for $150.</p><p> </p><p>Is reliability a factor for you?</p><p> </p><p>Forget the $1700 actions as there are a ton below. $1000. Tooley, Stiller, Defiance, Pierce, Haverkamp and Kelby for example. </p><p> </p><p>Kelby just announced a complete custom factory rifle built on their Atlas action, Krieger barrel etc for $2300 ready to ship. Anyone here prepared to match that?</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/01/shot-show-kelblys-atlas-custom-rifle-and-40th-super-shoot/" target="_blank">http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/01/shot-show-kelblys-atlas-custom-rifle-and-40th-super-shoot/</a></p><p> </p><p>IMO the bottom line is you will never come out ahead $ wise, never reliability and smoothness wise and always regret letting that Smith talk you into it reworking a remington.</p><p> </p><p>More and more smiths are recognizing it is not cost effective and good for the customer to rework actions when you factor in the things you should when you compare the numerous quality actions readily available today.</p><p> </p><p>Look at this action for example and ask yourself which would you rather have on your build and where is your money best spent? </p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f37/tooley-orion-action-pics-requested-56798/" target="_blank">http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f37/tooley-orion-action-pics-requested-56798/</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BountyHunter, post: 601475, member: 12"] Counterpoint time Let's get real. No one is doing a complete action blueprint that will put it remotely close to a custom especialy for $100-150 but that is the myth that is constantly being perpetuated. You will get the front of the rcvr, lugs and maybe the threads. Forget bolt and raceway work. Forget extractor, bolt release or similar standard features of the custom. The term blueprinting is not defined and only means what that one Smith wants it to. That is 99% of the problem with saying blueprinting. A "complete action blueprint" to include raceway and bolt work will cost a minimum of $400-600 and still never be as good as the custom. It will not be as reliable and cost as much if not more when you look at the features between the two. A $100-150 blueprint is really a waste of money when you consider it does nothing for reliability with the stupid Remington riveted extractor that will break. My last rem action (new) extractor broke twice on hunts after being fixed at gbe factory. Now if your idea of a fun hunt is carrying a magazine single shot rifle and a cleaning rod to knock each case then go that route. My last custom was a Tooley Orion. Cost was $850 to me and in last year. Came with fluted bolt with M16 extractor, extended and threaded by handle all melonite coated. Extended bolt release, pinned heavy recoil lug and 8x48 scope base holes. Cut for aftermarket magazjne systems also. There is NO comparison in smoothness and reliability nor will that enter in the discussion for $150. Is reliability a factor for you? Forget the $1700 actions as there are a ton below. $1000. Tooley, Stiller, Defiance, Pierce, Haverkamp and Kelby for example. Kelby just announced a complete custom factory rifle built on their Atlas action, Krieger barrel etc for $2300 ready to ship. Anyone here prepared to match that? [URL]http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/01/shot-show-kelblys-atlas-custom-rifle-and-40th-super-shoot/[/URL] IMO the bottom line is you will never come out ahead $ wise, never reliability and smoothness wise and always regret letting that Smith talk you into it reworking a remington. More and more smiths are recognizing it is not cost effective and good for the customer to rework actions when you factor in the things you should when you compare the numerous quality actions readily available today. Look at this action for example and ask yourself which would you rather have on your build and where is your money best spent? [URL]http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f37/tooley-orion-action-pics-requested-56798/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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