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Accuracy issues - who or what is to blame?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mike Matteson" data-source="post: 2397324" data-attributes="member: 101791"><p>You need to know your rifle, and how it shoots. Reloading is important part of it. I have done about 1/4" groups with my 220 Swift and over and over again. My equipment was a RCBS including dies. My scale is a Dia-O-Mat. That I had for 40 years now. Most of my rifles I get somewhere around 1/2 to 3/4 groups with them. One of the biggest thing is learning how to handle the rifle correctly. A lot of the time it's not the rifle, but the shooter. Knowing how it does on the bench is a very good thing to know. I have seen rifle that didn't group very good, and turn some of them into very good shooting rifles, and some not so much. There nothing like shooting ground squirrels at 400 yds to get yourself together. If you are using 5 and 10 lbs trigger, it's doesn't work or you going to get beat up working on getting the trigger to release, and not moving the rifle off it's position. I have done it, but I sure didn't like it. I changed out the trigger in that Ruger with it 8lbs trigger. It was and is shooting about a 3/8" group at 100yds. Nothing done to the stock either. I have shot other people rifles or develop reloads for that rifles that were right out of the box, and got about 5/8" groups. So it can't always be the equipment, it's the shooter. So blaming the equipment isn't really fair. It's what you put into it. I've seen a lot of stupid things on the range. I wonder how they were even allowed to purchase a firearm. The teaching of use of a firearm almost looks like a thing of the past. I feel that most here try and do teach others, and there kids to handle firearms. Not like that village DipSh*ts that go down an get a 15yr old a pistol, and doesn't put the pistol away from that kid. The kid goes down and shoot and kills 4 other kids. I hope that the 3 spend the rest of their life in jail. That at the same time, puts a load on all the rest of us, on ownership of firearms. Yes I do believe in bedding the actions, changing trigger out, and other tricks to get that rifle to shoot, and you to shoot better. I guess I'll get off the box now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mike Matteson, post: 2397324, member: 101791"] You need to know your rifle, and how it shoots. Reloading is important part of it. I have done about 1/4" groups with my 220 Swift and over and over again. My equipment was a RCBS including dies. My scale is a Dia-O-Mat. That I had for 40 years now. Most of my rifles I get somewhere around 1/2 to 3/4 groups with them. One of the biggest thing is learning how to handle the rifle correctly. A lot of the time it's not the rifle, but the shooter. Knowing how it does on the bench is a very good thing to know. I have seen rifle that didn't group very good, and turn some of them into very good shooting rifles, and some not so much. There nothing like shooting ground squirrels at 400 yds to get yourself together. If you are using 5 and 10 lbs trigger, it's doesn't work or you going to get beat up working on getting the trigger to release, and not moving the rifle off it's position. I have done it, but I sure didn't like it. I changed out the trigger in that Ruger with it 8lbs trigger. It was and is shooting about a 3/8" group at 100yds. Nothing done to the stock either. I have shot other people rifles or develop reloads for that rifles that were right out of the box, and got about 5/8" groups. So it can't always be the equipment, it's the shooter. So blaming the equipment isn't really fair. It's what you put into it. I've seen a lot of stupid things on the range. I wonder how they were even allowed to purchase a firearm. The teaching of use of a firearm almost looks like a thing of the past. I feel that most here try and do teach others, and there kids to handle firearms. Not like that village DipSh*ts that go down an get a 15yr old a pistol, and doesn't put the pistol away from that kid. The kid goes down and shoot and kills 4 other kids. I hope that the 3 spend the rest of their life in jail. That at the same time, puts a load on all the rest of us, on ownership of firearms. Yes I do believe in bedding the actions, changing trigger out, and other tricks to get that rifle to shoot, and you to shoot better. I guess I'll get off the box now. [/QUOTE]
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