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<blockquote data-quote="Teri Anne" data-source="post: 2394059" data-attributes="member: 118816"><p>Well ya know I have to put in my 2 cents too. I bought my first Tikka T3x used. The store I was working at, at that time took it in on trade for a Savage. The guy trading it in stated that it was the most inaccurate rifle he had ever owned. Since he made that statement he didn't get a good price for the trade in, which was obviously a defective rifle. In my over 52 years as a marksmanship instructor there have been many times that someone blamed the rifle, yet I could take the rifle out of their hands and shoot good groups with it right in front of them. Knowing Tikka's reputation I purchased the rifle, again at a bargain price. I put a Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6 x 24 x 50 on it and took it to the range. At 25 yards it shot a 3 shot group all touching about 4 inches high and 3 inches left. Made the adjustments and moved over to the 100 yard range. The first group at 100 yards was still high but the windage was right on, this group was a bit larger at 0.75 MOA. Adjusted again and the next goup was a duplicate of the previous one. The point to be made is that most modern rifles are much better than the person behind the trigger. The Tikka proved that in volumes. I was using Sig Sauer Elite 165 gr 30-06 ammo, which I have tried unsuccessfully to duplicate the performance with hand loads. Best I have been able to do is 0.85 MOA using Nosler Partitions which is still very good. I am always hearing about people worrying about why their rifle/ammo is shooting nice groups with 1 shot out of 5 being a flier. Well people that flier is yet another example of the person behind the trigger failing to pull of a perfect shot and not ready to admit it was their fault. All of us do it, myself included. To my way of thinking if it's only one flier out of five then the chances are going to be that it will still result in a dead deer, elk or whatever large animal you are shooting at, Prairie Dogs might be an issue, but that is another discussion entirely.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Teri Anne, post: 2394059, member: 118816"] Well ya know I have to put in my 2 cents too. I bought my first Tikka T3x used. The store I was working at, at that time took it in on trade for a Savage. The guy trading it in stated that it was the most inaccurate rifle he had ever owned. Since he made that statement he didn't get a good price for the trade in, which was obviously a defective rifle. In my over 52 years as a marksmanship instructor there have been many times that someone blamed the rifle, yet I could take the rifle out of their hands and shoot good groups with it right in front of them. Knowing Tikka's reputation I purchased the rifle, again at a bargain price. I put a Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6 x 24 x 50 on it and took it to the range. At 25 yards it shot a 3 shot group all touching about 4 inches high and 3 inches left. Made the adjustments and moved over to the 100 yard range. The first group at 100 yards was still high but the windage was right on, this group was a bit larger at 0.75 MOA. Adjusted again and the next goup was a duplicate of the previous one. The point to be made is that most modern rifles are much better than the person behind the trigger. The Tikka proved that in volumes. I was using Sig Sauer Elite 165 gr 30-06 ammo, which I have tried unsuccessfully to duplicate the performance with hand loads. Best I have been able to do is 0.85 MOA using Nosler Partitions which is still very good. I am always hearing about people worrying about why their rifle/ammo is shooting nice groups with 1 shot out of 5 being a flier. Well people that flier is yet another example of the person behind the trigger failing to pull of a perfect shot and not ready to admit it was their fault. All of us do it, myself included. To my way of thinking if it's only one flier out of five then the chances are going to be that it will still result in a dead deer, elk or whatever large animal you are shooting at, Prairie Dogs might be an issue, but that is another discussion entirely. [/QUOTE]
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