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Accuracy issues - who or what is to blame?
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<blockquote data-quote="2Ldude" data-source="post: 2393866" data-attributes="member: 104823"><p>Wouldn't scope quality (cross hair) play a part in this also? I have a 45-70 that I shoot strictly to 100 yards. When I put together loads for it using a not so high quality scope the groups were 1" - 1 1/2" I shoot enough (practice right, shoot right) that that kind of accuracy even with a 45-70 at 100 yards wasn't acceptable. Put one of my higher end vortex's on it and groups shrank to 3/4". I determined that the original scope cross hairs with 2x4 sized lines couldn't begin to hold a minute of angle even at 100 yards. Left better scope on the rifle. A respected gun builder that used to shoot long range told me even if the driver had premium skills with a lot of shooting time most scopes wouldn't begin to hold a minute of angle at longer distances so how could load development and practice be put together precisely. I learned a ton from him and have been changing all my scopes to really fine cross hairs. After that it's what MuddyBoots stated above <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Couldn't possibly be me !!!! Nowadays I shoot to hold bullets in a kill zone sized area out to 600 and I'm more than happy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="2Ldude, post: 2393866, member: 104823"] Wouldn't scope quality (cross hair) play a part in this also? I have a 45-70 that I shoot strictly to 100 yards. When I put together loads for it using a not so high quality scope the groups were 1" - 1 1/2" I shoot enough (practice right, shoot right) that that kind of accuracy even with a 45-70 at 100 yards wasn't acceptable. Put one of my higher end vortex's on it and groups shrank to 3/4". I determined that the original scope cross hairs with 2x4 sized lines couldn't begin to hold a minute of angle even at 100 yards. Left better scope on the rifle. A respected gun builder that used to shoot long range told me even if the driver had premium skills with a lot of shooting time most scopes wouldn't begin to hold a minute of angle at longer distances so how could load development and practice be put together precisely. I learned a ton from him and have been changing all my scopes to really fine cross hairs. After that it's what MuddyBoots stated above :) Couldn't possibly be me !!!! Nowadays I shoot to hold bullets in a kill zone sized area out to 600 and I'm more than happy. [/QUOTE]
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