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a good Long Range non barrel burn caliber
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<blockquote data-quote="scottyd2506" data-source="post: 873931" data-attributes="member: 19778"><p>I'm sorry if I offended you about the 6.5x284 and 7mm mags, I absolutely love hard hitting flat shooting guns like the 6.5x284, heck the 6.5 Sherman, 264 win and 6.5 WSM mag seems perfect for that caliber the 7mm STW or allen mag.</p><p> All my bolt guns are fast hard hitting, 300 win mag, 25-06 and 204 (it's fast and flat shooting anyways)</p><p></p><p> For hunting the 6.5-284 or 6.5 Sherman or 6.5-06 would be great, a little flatter and faster than a 6.5-55 or 260 rem, but then again the later will kill deer and elk also out to 1000 yards. the 7 mag is hard to beat, a 180 Berger at 3000 fps.. not much is better. </p><p></p><p> I want something that is mainly target, but I can hunt with sometimes. </p><p> Even a 308 will work, it has the power of a 357 Magnum at muzzle at 1000 yards. But something that bucks the wind better might be easier to hit with, the wind can be tricky, so something that has 48 inches of drift vs 26 inches can help.</p><p> It is not hard to put 400-500 rounds down the barrel through a years time. and in 3 years the accuracy goes from consistent 1/2 moa to sometimes 1/2 moa and poi change.. Then plunk down $400--$600 for a barrel, wait many months for a smith to ream it, and put in on the action for another </p><p>$200-$300. Some of the gunsmiths around here have a year wait till they can get to your gun.</p><p></p><p> This is the reason I want to leave my fast flat shooting guns to hunting, and get a dedicate target (and sometimes hunting) rifle, that weighs around 10-12 lbs and lasts for 5-8 years or more.</p><p></p><p> I've thought about a 284 with 30 inch bbl in 8.5 twist, I've heard of people getting 3000 fps from 284 and 180 Berger's using Re-17 and 30-32 inch bbl.</p><p>It's on the edge, but 2800 fps should be easy from a 28 inch, just 200 fps slower than a 7rm and lasts 3 times longer.</p><p> a good compromise of long range and a non barrel burner.</p><p></p><p>I've been thinking of re barreling my 300 wm tro 7 rm. but now since Berger has the 215 OTM and 230 OTM's, the 30's are alive again the 215 has a (696 bc) almost .7bc and the 230 OTM is .743 bc. but Berger has a 195 7mm in the works. So the7mm is hard to beat</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scottyd2506, post: 873931, member: 19778"] I'm sorry if I offended you about the 6.5x284 and 7mm mags, I absolutely love hard hitting flat shooting guns like the 6.5x284, heck the 6.5 Sherman, 264 win and 6.5 WSM mag seems perfect for that caliber the 7mm STW or allen mag. All my bolt guns are fast hard hitting, 300 win mag, 25-06 and 204 (it's fast and flat shooting anyways) For hunting the 6.5-284 or 6.5 Sherman or 6.5-06 would be great, a little flatter and faster than a 6.5-55 or 260 rem, but then again the later will kill deer and elk also out to 1000 yards. the 7 mag is hard to beat, a 180 Berger at 3000 fps.. not much is better. I want something that is mainly target, but I can hunt with sometimes. Even a 308 will work, it has the power of a 357 Magnum at muzzle at 1000 yards. But something that bucks the wind better might be easier to hit with, the wind can be tricky, so something that has 48 inches of drift vs 26 inches can help. It is not hard to put 400-500 rounds down the barrel through a years time. and in 3 years the accuracy goes from consistent 1/2 moa to sometimes 1/2 moa and poi change.. Then plunk down $400--$600 for a barrel, wait many months for a smith to ream it, and put in on the action for another $200-$300. Some of the gunsmiths around here have a year wait till they can get to your gun. This is the reason I want to leave my fast flat shooting guns to hunting, and get a dedicate target (and sometimes hunting) rifle, that weighs around 10-12 lbs and lasts for 5-8 years or more. I've thought about a 284 with 30 inch bbl in 8.5 twist, I've heard of people getting 3000 fps from 284 and 180 Berger's using Re-17 and 30-32 inch bbl. It's on the edge, but 2800 fps should be easy from a 28 inch, just 200 fps slower than a 7rm and lasts 3 times longer. a good compromise of long range and a non barrel burner. I've been thinking of re barreling my 300 wm tro 7 rm. but now since Berger has the 215 OTM and 230 OTM's, the 30's are alive again the 215 has a (696 bc) almost .7bc and the 230 OTM is .743 bc. but Berger has a 195 7mm in the works. So the7mm is hard to beat [/QUOTE]
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