.45 colt

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by Dan H, Dec 2, 2013.

  1. Dan H

    Dan H Member

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    I know this is a long range forum, but..
    Last night I loaded up some 250 grain jacketed flat nose bullets with blue dot. I wanted something that I could shoot through my ruger vaquero AND my mod. 94 lever action. Shot them this morning, and they were incredibly accurate through both the pistol and the rifle. Problem is, 2 out of the 10 brass split down the side out of the mod. 94. None of the brass shot through the vaquero showed signs of pressure. Is there more pressure in the rifle just because of the barrel being longer?

    I used 10.4 grains of blue dot, (minimum load according to hornaday book), and it also says "do not reduce"

    Maybe the 2 that split were just old, and a coincidence.

    I put a pretty heavy crimp on them.

    any .45 colt reloaders out there? thanks, Dan
     
  2. g0rd0

    g0rd0 Well-Known Member

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    I have a super Blackhawk 44 mag and a model 94 with the same results. My conclusions the model 94 has a sloppy chamber
     

  3. Dan H

    Dan H Member

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    Well... I guess that's better than too much pressure..

    I didn't want to have to change the load because it was shooting 2" groups with the pistol at 15 yds., and 3/4" groups with the rifle.

    By the way, it was the Nosler book, not Hornaday
     
  4. g0rd0

    g0rd0 Well-Known Member

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    with thin cases like the 44rm and 45lc a hot load will not pop out of the cylinder easy. And if by chance you have to remove the cylinder from the revolver and put it in a vise to knock out the empty then you can rest assured that your load may be a tad hot.:D
     
  5. Gunpoor

    Gunpoor Well-Known Member

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    Brass splitting lengthwise is not a sign of excessive pressure but rather old hardened brass. BTW, I have loaded 45LC waaaay beyond the load the OP described in his post, i.e. a 335 GCFP bullet at 1193 ft/sec using H110.
     
  6. MTBULLET

    MTBULLET Well-Known Member

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    be VERY VERY sure that you have the CORRECT charge when using blue dot, it can RAPIDLY build pressure spikes.
     
  7. sean1

    sean1 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure why it would do that but have you ever tried a different powder? Maybe lil gun or h110 might be a good choice.
     
  8. ArchAngelCD

    ArchAngelCD Active Member

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    If you don't want to keep losing cases to splits I would look into annealing those cases if you're going to keep shooting them in the levergun. Like said above, it sounds like a sloppy chamber in the Carbine...
     
  9. Quarterhorse

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    +1

    My hunting load is a 325gr Rimrock bullet over 24gr of H110. I run this through my SBH Hunter and my Rossi R92.
     
  10. Clark

    Clark Well-Known Member

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    Few guys reload hotter than me, but you are for 45 Colt.

    I do 24 gr H110 250 gr XTP with a roll crimp, ~ 20KPSI
    1536 fps from a 16.25" Win 94
    1220 fps from a 4.75" Uberti Cattleman

    The rifle shoots 3 moa with open sights.
     
  11. Quarterhorse

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    I have no chrono but there are no signs of pressure at the primer or neck. Off a bag my SBH is around 5 MOA but that's probably my flinch, not the gun.

    The R92 hasn't had a ton through it, but I had a 3 round group all but touching at 50 yards.
     
  12. Elkriver

    Elkriver Well-Known Member

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    I shoot auto comp in my 45 Long colt lever clean acurrate ... 700 x ... It shoots 3 leaf clover at 50 yds .. me & my buddy shoot at a 18x 24 gong at 300 yds with it good for 2/5 shoots to hit it open sights .....