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338 edge, 300 rum, 7 rum
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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 603847" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>Or go to jbm ballistics on the internet and run the numbers for the range and altitude you plan on hunting. Run the numbers for the primary range you plan on hunting. No need running numbers beyond 1100-1200 yards unless you are building a rifle specifically to shoot beyond that distance most of the time. If most of your hunting is inside 1000 yards then find the best bullet/velocity combination to 1000 yards. The best combo to 1000 yards will not be the best for specifically shooting at 1500 yards but will work there. The best at 1500 yards will not have the best ballistics to 1000 yards. So you have got to make a choice.</p><p> </p><p>Remember now to only consider cartridges that fit your plan of punching a lot of paper. The 7mm RUM I do not consider an option at any time for anything because the barrels are gone quickly. The 300 RUM is not a paper puncher but is a good long range hunting rifle to work up a good load then limited shooting after that. Then it will last quite some time. There are guys still shooting original 338-300 RUM's I did back in 1999 and have punched quite a bit of paper along with hunting. It and the 338 RUM barrels will last considerably longer than the others. To get the best ballistics you need to go to specialty bullets like the cutting edge however that gets very expensive doing a lot of paper punching. I am a hunter and the hunting rifles are only used for hunting so they make sense to me. </p><p> </p><p>With the 300 RUM I use a 180 grain cutting edge bullet I am getting a .6 bc with at 3450-3470 fps. With the 338-300 and 338 RUM's I am shooting the 225 cutting edge .64 bc at 3200 fps. Run those on jbm against others you consider and see how they look. I shot the 225 accubond for quite a while out of the 338's with good results. I am just concerned the 300 grainers will beat you to death out of a short light rifle. CE also makes a 260 grain .76 bc and 252 grain .72 bc that would be a little better on recoil. Again these are very expensive for punching paper but are the best I have found for hunting.</p><p> </p><p>Eric Stecker at Berger told me they are coming out with a lighter 338 bullet that may work well for you. But if you are looking at a case the size of the RUM I would not look under 338 caliber for punching a lot of paper. I think maybe you are trying to mix oil and water and they don't mix. A long range hunting cartridge and a long range target cartridge for punching a lot of paper are two different things. The only super long range hunting cartridges that can punch a lot of paper are going to be in 338 or larger caliber.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 603847, member: 505"] Or go to jbm ballistics on the internet and run the numbers for the range and altitude you plan on hunting. Run the numbers for the primary range you plan on hunting. No need running numbers beyond 1100-1200 yards unless you are building a rifle specifically to shoot beyond that distance most of the time. If most of your hunting is inside 1000 yards then find the best bullet/velocity combination to 1000 yards. The best combo to 1000 yards will not be the best for specifically shooting at 1500 yards but will work there. The best at 1500 yards will not have the best ballistics to 1000 yards. So you have got to make a choice. Remember now to only consider cartridges that fit your plan of punching a lot of paper. The 7mm RUM I do not consider an option at any time for anything because the barrels are gone quickly. The 300 RUM is not a paper puncher but is a good long range hunting rifle to work up a good load then limited shooting after that. Then it will last quite some time. There are guys still shooting original 338-300 RUM's I did back in 1999 and have punched quite a bit of paper along with hunting. It and the 338 RUM barrels will last considerably longer than the others. To get the best ballistics you need to go to specialty bullets like the cutting edge however that gets very expensive doing a lot of paper punching. I am a hunter and the hunting rifles are only used for hunting so they make sense to me. With the 300 RUM I use a 180 grain cutting edge bullet I am getting a .6 bc with at 3450-3470 fps. With the 338-300 and 338 RUM's I am shooting the 225 cutting edge .64 bc at 3200 fps. Run those on jbm against others you consider and see how they look. I shot the 225 accubond for quite a while out of the 338's with good results. I am just concerned the 300 grainers will beat you to death out of a short light rifle. CE also makes a 260 grain .76 bc and 252 grain .72 bc that would be a little better on recoil. Again these are very expensive for punching paper but are the best I have found for hunting. Eric Stecker at Berger told me they are coming out with a lighter 338 bullet that may work well for you. But if you are looking at a case the size of the RUM I would not look under 338 caliber for punching a lot of paper. I think maybe you are trying to mix oil and water and they don't mix. A long range hunting cartridge and a long range target cartridge for punching a lot of paper are two different things. The only super long range hunting cartridges that can punch a lot of paper are going to be in 338 or larger caliber. [/QUOTE]
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