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308 for long range deer
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<blockquote data-quote="Michael Eichele" data-source="post: 1265192" data-attributes="member: 1007"><p>The 208ELDX and 215 hybrid turn the 308 into a legitimate 1000 yard hammer. Maybe not at sea level but at 5000' plus elevation where I hunt deer, I'm happier running my 308 than any 260 rem. 26" barrels also bump it up. The 308 has a bad wrap as a LR clean killer with the common belief that 20-22" barrels and 12 twists with 150-168 grain bullets are it's limitations. Under those parameters yes, you all are right. Give it more displacement and tighter twist along with heavier for caliber bullets like everybody does with the 260, 708, 6.5 creed etc...and the 308 can hit harder with equal wind. You'll never convince me that the 260 or 6.5 creed is superior to the 308. Superior in recoil yes but very little else. Depending on the load, the little guys can have a flatter trajectory. Very little concern with LRFs. Neither of those make those cartridges superior over the 308 just as the 308s qualities dont make it superior over those. If you want low recoil, go with the little guys. If you want long barrel life and more energy, go 308. Even running the new 178 ELDX or 180 Elite gives the 308 new life. A legitimate velocity for those bullets are 2750+ with 26" tubes. Their BCs are legit too. I'm happy with the performance with the 260, 6.5 creed and 708. I feel confident with them. I feel every bit as confident with the 308. As with any other cartridge, it depends on the rifle and load. Of course the nut behind the butt has as much to do with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Michael Eichele, post: 1265192, member: 1007"] The 208ELDX and 215 hybrid turn the 308 into a legitimate 1000 yard hammer. Maybe not at sea level but at 5000' plus elevation where I hunt deer, I'm happier running my 308 than any 260 rem. 26" barrels also bump it up. The 308 has a bad wrap as a LR clean killer with the common belief that 20-22" barrels and 12 twists with 150-168 grain bullets are it's limitations. Under those parameters yes, you all are right. Give it more displacement and tighter twist along with heavier for caliber bullets like everybody does with the 260, 708, 6.5 creed etc...and the 308 can hit harder with equal wind. You'll never convince me that the 260 or 6.5 creed is superior to the 308. Superior in recoil yes but very little else. Depending on the load, the little guys can have a flatter trajectory. Very little concern with LRFs. Neither of those make those cartridges superior over the 308 just as the 308s qualities dont make it superior over those. If you want low recoil, go with the little guys. If you want long barrel life and more energy, go 308. Even running the new 178 ELDX or 180 Elite gives the 308 new life. A legitimate velocity for those bullets are 2750+ with 26" tubes. Their BCs are legit too. I'm happy with the performance with the 260, 6.5 creed and 708. I feel confident with them. I feel every bit as confident with the 308. As with any other cartridge, it depends on the rifle and load. Of course the nut behind the butt has as much to do with it. [/QUOTE]
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