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<blockquote data-quote="crazyhorse" data-source="post: 744738" data-attributes="member: 3056"><p>The Bergers shoot really good and no doubt seem to take their share of animals. The link Broz provided you is outstanding and should answer all your questions about them. </p><p></p><p>Like you most of my shots are under 300 due to the terrain where I hunt. I have been using Barnes X bullets for several years with great results. I started with the standard X bullet and graduated to the TTSX'S when they came out. I'm currently working on a load for the new LRX. The Bergers are certainly easier to work with as far as accuracy, the Barnes can sometimes take a little work but I've always been able to get them to shoot after some load development. The new LRX has proven to be difficult but I have only had one range session with them so far. I will not hunt with a load that doesn't shoot sub MOA. </p><p></p><p>Having said all that I can tell you without doubt the Barnes kill like lightening! I have only had one not exit (have shot 30+ animals, mostly deer) and it was on a large buck quartering away. The bullet entered behind the near side shoulder and stopped in the throat area. The deer never twitched going straight to the ground with a bounce. All of the others have been a complete pass through with a massive blood trail when there was a need to follow one. I can honestly say that 90% of the animals I have shot were DRT with the Barnes. </p><p></p><p>I have done most of my damage with a 7mm mag shooting the 140gr bullets and my son has whacked numerous deer with his 260 shooting 120gr ttsx's. Last year I started shooting a Hart barreled 300 win mag with the 168gr ttsx's and it is pure poison on deer! Caliber size entrance holes and exits that average around 2", everything shot at with the 300 was DRT. </p><p></p><p>These are two completely different bullets that perform on opposite ends of the spectrum. I have found that with the Barnes that going a little lighter and a lot faster is the ticket. The Bergers seem to perform best at long range after burning off some speed. We tried the Bergers on a few doe last year because they shoot so dang good. We lost one with a very faint blood trail that I am positive was a good hit, the other two were recovered after traveling maybe 300 yards. On both deer found the bullet did not exit and the blood trail was faint. The internals were devastated leaving me and my hunting partner scratching our head about how they went that far. All three shots were under 200 yards with a 7mm mag. </p><p></p><p>With the Barnes I really like to start them out over the 3000fps mark if I can. These bullets really show off at high speeds. The wound channels left by Barnes bullets are impressive, just about everything inside within 8" of the path of the bullet is shredded or liquified. If a blood trail is necessary they are massive from an almost certain pass through. </p><p></p><p>Im in no way saying the Berger bullets are bad, I must admit that after reading the write up by Broz, I went out and bought some of the 215gr hybrids for my 300 win mag. I plan on spending the summer gathering data to give them a try this fall. The amount of game he took and the results he documented was nothing less than impressive! I just have a tremendous amount of confidence in the Barnes with their performance on game. </p><p></p><p>Kinda long winded but a slow night at work!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="crazyhorse, post: 744738, member: 3056"] The Bergers shoot really good and no doubt seem to take their share of animals. The link Broz provided you is outstanding and should answer all your questions about them. Like you most of my shots are under 300 due to the terrain where I hunt. I have been using Barnes X bullets for several years with great results. I started with the standard X bullet and graduated to the TTSX'S when they came out. I'm currently working on a load for the new LRX. The Bergers are certainly easier to work with as far as accuracy, the Barnes can sometimes take a little work but I've always been able to get them to shoot after some load development. The new LRX has proven to be difficult but I have only had one range session with them so far. I will not hunt with a load that doesn't shoot sub MOA. Having said all that I can tell you without doubt the Barnes kill like lightening! I have only had one not exit (have shot 30+ animals, mostly deer) and it was on a large buck quartering away. The bullet entered behind the near side shoulder and stopped in the throat area. The deer never twitched going straight to the ground with a bounce. All of the others have been a complete pass through with a massive blood trail when there was a need to follow one. I can honestly say that 90% of the animals I have shot were DRT with the Barnes. I have done most of my damage with a 7mm mag shooting the 140gr bullets and my son has whacked numerous deer with his 260 shooting 120gr ttsx's. Last year I started shooting a Hart barreled 300 win mag with the 168gr ttsx's and it is pure poison on deer! Caliber size entrance holes and exits that average around 2", everything shot at with the 300 was DRT. These are two completely different bullets that perform on opposite ends of the spectrum. I have found that with the Barnes that going a little lighter and a lot faster is the ticket. The Bergers seem to perform best at long range after burning off some speed. We tried the Bergers on a few doe last year because they shoot so dang good. We lost one with a very faint blood trail that I am positive was a good hit, the other two were recovered after traveling maybe 300 yards. On both deer found the bullet did not exit and the blood trail was faint. The internals were devastated leaving me and my hunting partner scratching our head about how they went that far. All three shots were under 200 yards with a 7mm mag. With the Barnes I really like to start them out over the 3000fps mark if I can. These bullets really show off at high speeds. The wound channels left by Barnes bullets are impressive, just about everything inside within 8" of the path of the bullet is shredded or liquified. If a blood trail is necessary they are massive from an almost certain pass through. Im in no way saying the Berger bullets are bad, I must admit that after reading the write up by Broz, I went out and bought some of the 215gr hybrids for my 300 win mag. I plan on spending the summer gathering data to give them a try this fall. The amount of game he took and the results he documented was nothing less than impressive! I just have a tremendous amount of confidence in the Barnes with their performance on game. Kinda long winded but a slow night at work! [/QUOTE]
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