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.257 Wby --> .25-06 AI
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<blockquote data-quote="Nomosendero" data-source="post: 461437" data-attributes="member: 3622"><p>I corresponded with Kirby at length before the decision was made to go with the 25-06AI, but I must admit we were looking at current data, not Korean War components. Maybe you should</p><p>e-mail him and tell him there is no gain before he does another one, wow!!!</p><p></p><p>Look, if you want to believe that the Roberts improved is the ticket I have no issue with that. What I don't want is someone to attempt to pee down my back & tell me its raining. I remember Bob Hutton & why I asked how he fits into this is simple, he doesn't. Again a product of the old days/Ackley era. You say the new powders don't gain you much, which for the 25-06AI is a crock. By your reasoning & 60's mentality a 300RUM would be in a dead heat with the 300WM, when in reality the new powders are what separates the RUM, 7STW, 338 Edge and others from lessor rounds.</p><p>And what you said before about mag length is also a crock if you know what mag to use. As stated, I use a Rem Sendero, which has a Mag length action as the std. long action. I can seat the VLD as long as the bullet will allow. </p><p></p><p>You say that the AI could only get 3350, well the Nosler Manual shows 3361 for a std. 25-06 with a 24" tube, I am running a 26" AI with a suitable length long throat in a mag length Mod. 700 action. The vel. I am getting are quite easy to obtain with the new powders you say don't matter. In fact, I found in 3 current manuale the vel. running from 3300 to 3400 with the std. case. To think with todays powders there would be no gain at all going to the AI case but a large gain going to the Wea. is simply not logical.</p><p></p><p>Efficiency is one matter & would be worthy of discussion if I cared, but with available propellants, case capacity wins in velocity. The rest is a matter of how much you want & other pros & cons. </p><p></p><p>Let's just agree to disagree here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nomosendero, post: 461437, member: 3622"] I corresponded with Kirby at length before the decision was made to go with the 25-06AI, but I must admit we were looking at current data, not Korean War components. Maybe you should e-mail him and tell him there is no gain before he does another one, wow!!! Look, if you want to believe that the Roberts improved is the ticket I have no issue with that. What I don't want is someone to attempt to pee down my back & tell me its raining. I remember Bob Hutton & why I asked how he fits into this is simple, he doesn't. Again a product of the old days/Ackley era. You say the new powders don't gain you much, which for the 25-06AI is a crock. By your reasoning & 60's mentality a 300RUM would be in a dead heat with the 300WM, when in reality the new powders are what separates the RUM, 7STW, 338 Edge and others from lessor rounds. And what you said before about mag length is also a crock if you know what mag to use. As stated, I use a Rem Sendero, which has a Mag length action as the std. long action. I can seat the VLD as long as the bullet will allow. You say that the AI could only get 3350, well the Nosler Manual shows 3361 for a std. 25-06 with a 24" tube, I am running a 26" AI with a suitable length long throat in a mag length Mod. 700 action. The vel. I am getting are quite easy to obtain with the new powders you say don't matter. In fact, I found in 3 current manuale the vel. running from 3300 to 3400 with the std. case. To think with todays powders there would be no gain at all going to the AI case but a large gain going to the Wea. is simply not logical. Efficiency is one matter & would be worthy of discussion if I cared, but with available propellants, case capacity wins in velocity. The rest is a matter of how much you want & other pros & cons. Let's just agree to disagree here. [/QUOTE]
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