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25 wssm or 25 wssm improved 40 degree or 25-284
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<blockquote data-quote="sable tireur" data-source="post: 2441809" data-attributes="member: 27307"><p>May 15, 2005</p><p></p><p>Lots has changed since then; new bullets, new powders, same old brass from Winchester...</p><p></p><p>The folks who brought us the Blackjack 131 grain ACE Match Bullet revitalized the world of .25 caliber shooting. So much so that Berger, the behemoth of bullet manufacturing these days, managed to design and bring forth both the 133 gr. and 135 gr. bullets for the longer range .25 caliber fans. The downside to all of the components supply has been the epidemic and the supply chain. Blackjack hasn't been heard from for approximately 2 years with no indication that Sierra will resume manufacturing of the Blackjack until all of their inhouse needs are met. Sad situation for a bullet of this excellence but Berger has both bullets available through a few sources and both work quite well in my testing.</p><p></p><p>I am aware that there are ardent supporters who advocate for improving every cartridge no matter the least degree of improvement. I am not one of them. Improving cartridges such as the 25 WSSM is a waste of powder and bullets let alone the barrel life to create them. Modern case design should preclude this waste but the brainwashing continues to defeat common sense. Yes, case growth can be deterred but how much more than from the more modern 30 degree shoulder? What is the significance?</p><p></p><p>The WSSM case capacity itself is in the same ballpark as any .25 cal. cartridge based on the .308 Win. or .30 T/C cartridge case. It is significantly less than the .25-06 and it's variations or the .25-284 on the .284 case. </p><p></p><p>The greatest difficulty encountered by WSSM shooters is magazine feeding. This was almost resolved by Winchester with the advent of the WSSM action. Unfortunately the action design alone failed to correct everything the public demanded and is now a part of history. Good fortune shines on those gunsmiths who actually understand the geometry of feeding and can make some adjustments in existing magazines. Otherwise we are left using single shots as our main platform. </p><p></p><p>The good news is that the .25 caliber is alive and well and waiting for the rest of the component world to catch up. </p><p></p><p><img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😊" title="Smiling face with smiling eyes :blush:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60a.png" data-shortname=":blush:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sable tireur, post: 2441809, member: 27307"] May 15, 2005 Lots has changed since then; new bullets, new powders, same old brass from Winchester... The folks who brought us the Blackjack 131 grain ACE Match Bullet revitalized the world of .25 caliber shooting. So much so that Berger, the behemoth of bullet manufacturing these days, managed to design and bring forth both the 133 gr. and 135 gr. bullets for the longer range .25 caliber fans. The downside to all of the components supply has been the epidemic and the supply chain. Blackjack hasn't been heard from for approximately 2 years with no indication that Sierra will resume manufacturing of the Blackjack until all of their inhouse needs are met. Sad situation for a bullet of this excellence but Berger has both bullets available through a few sources and both work quite well in my testing. I am aware that there are ardent supporters who advocate for improving every cartridge no matter the least degree of improvement. I am not one of them. Improving cartridges such as the 25 WSSM is a waste of powder and bullets let alone the barrel life to create them. Modern case design should preclude this waste but the brainwashing continues to defeat common sense. Yes, case growth can be deterred but how much more than from the more modern 30 degree shoulder? What is the significance? The WSSM case capacity itself is in the same ballpark as any .25 cal. cartridge based on the .308 Win. or .30 T/C cartridge case. It is significantly less than the .25-06 and it's variations or the .25-284 on the .284 case. The greatest difficulty encountered by WSSM shooters is magazine feeding. This was almost resolved by Winchester with the advent of the WSSM action. Unfortunately the action design alone failed to correct everything the public demanded and is now a part of history. Good fortune shines on those gunsmiths who actually understand the geometry of feeding and can make some adjustments in existing magazines. Otherwise we are left using single shots as our main platform. The good news is that the .25 caliber is alive and well and waiting for the rest of the component world to catch up. 😊 [/QUOTE]
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