180 vld's and 168 vld's ?

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  1. 6BR4ME2

    6BR4ME2 Well-Known Member

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    180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

    In a 300 rum rem 700 factory barrel..... will they make it or make the old "blue fog" coming out of the barrel..

    berger accuracy no problems however they claim the j4's hold up to around 3500 fps, just wondering if anyone has pushed um that high "without blowing up" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
     
  2. James Jones

    James Jones Well-Known Member

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

    I haven't run the 30 cals that hard but the smaller ones will handle some pretty high rpm's the 180's should do fine and the 168 should make it but depending on your barrel ?

    why not shoot the 210's , a little slower but much better down range.
     

  3. 6BR4ME2

    6BR4ME2 Well-Known Member

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

    I'm thinking 180's ... but ya the #'s state your reply...
     
  4. Rob01

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

    I'd definately recommend the 210s. Better BC and you can get them going plenty fast to hit at long range. In my 300WM I have them going 2950fps without a problem and have shot them to 1600 yards without a problem. With the larger RUM you should be able to push them even faster. But if I had to choose between the two you mentioned I would definately go with the 185VLDs.
     
  5. smckenna03

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

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    In a 300 rum rem 700 factory barrel..... will they make it or make the old "blue fog" coming out of the barrel..

    berger accuracy no problems however they claim the j4's hold up to around 3500 fps, just wondering if anyone has pushed um that high "without blowing up" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

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    To All,

    I don't know where the 3500 FPS came from, however I don't believe you can break it down into something that black and white. I wish it were this simple. You have to take into account the twist rate and the cartridge, the overall RPM's the bullet will be spinning at, and any rough spots in the bore, things like this that can make any bullet blow up.

    We have spent a lot of time and money digging into the reason bullets blow up and have found that there is not one single thing that all the sudden makes your bullet blow up, it could be from a combination of things at once, or just one thing.

    Hope this helps.

    I want to thank all the long-range hunters for trying our NEW Hunting Bullets.
     
  6. hoghound

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

    I'm running 3400fps with the Berger 185's out of my factory Remmy sendaro.

    97grs. H-1000
    Fed. 215
    Rem. cases
    OACL 3.600

    This load shoots a ragged hole at 300 and 1-1.5" at 500yds with according to my program produces 1520 ft/lbs at 1000yds.

    Tim
     
  7. 1doug

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

    Hey Shawn,

    When can we expect some high quality 338 bullets?

    I know that the 3500 is a wives tail i was pushing the 168's at 3650 out of my rum in a factory barrel 1-10 twist.

    d-a
     
  8. 6BR4ME2

    6BR4ME2 Well-Known Member

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

    Didn't mean to stir anything about the 185 vld's...berger quality is excellent...
     
  9. smckenna03

    smckenna03 New Member

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

    I don't think anyone stired the pot, I just wanted to let whoever reads this forum, what we found out in our testing.

    I enjoy the exchanges on these forums, they are a great way to exchange information to new shooters or new to a type of shooting.

    Let's go shoot something shall we?
     
  10. smckenna03

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

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    Hey Shawn,

    When can we expect some high quality 338 bullets?

    I know that the 3500 is a wives tail i was pushing the 168's at 3650 out of my rum in a factory barrel 1-10 twist.

    d-a

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    We are working on a 338 bullet for te future, I can't say when it will be done, we have to build a new machine before we can start making the larger bullets.
     
  11. sewwhat89

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

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    I want to thank all the long-range hunters for trying our NEW Hunting Bullets.

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    Quote of the year! I hope to use some of them myself if the timing is right.
     
  12. Rob01

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

    Hey Shawn. Good to see you on the web. This is Rob the tactical shooter who you spoke with at SHOT 06' and we spoke a few times on the phone and through e-mails. Thanks again for the Berger support for the Snipers Hide Cup and the Alleghany Sniper Challenge. I'm still using the Berger 210s in the 300WM.
     
  13. duckinalaska

    duckinalaska Well-Known Member

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

    Shawn,
    Do you have any reloading data for the 180 berger in 7 RUM. Any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks,
    Brandon
     
  14. smckenna03

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    Re: 180 vld\'s and 168 vld\'s ?

    Brandon,

    I would send an email to Walt Berger at bergerltd@aol.com he should be able to get you the information you need.

    Please make sure you include something like loading data in the subject line.