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<blockquote data-quote="Bart B" data-source="post: 661033" data-attributes="member: 5302"><p>That depends on the marksmanship skills they have, their knowledge of ballistics and the requirements of doing well at long range. </p><p></p><p>I've seen folks start out at 800 yards in their first Palma match. Having never shot any rifle other than a rimfire .22 at short range, they've layed down on the 800 yard line and busted their first centerfire round in their brand new rifle with brand new handloads. They had figured out that there was enough time after firing their first shot to quick look through their spotting scope and see where the bullet struck the dirt somewhere around their target. Make a sight adjustment and their next shot was on the 6 x 6 foot target paper. Couple more shots to zero up and they're off an running. No, they won't shoot scores as well as the best do, but I've seen them place in the top half of all the scores fired. And they've shot much better than some folks who've been doing it for years.</p><p></p><p>Helped a guy build his first centerfire rifle some years ago. It was a Palma rifle made for 800 to 1000 yard competition. Showed him how to load his first ammo with my tools and he put together 50 rounds with new cases. Went to a 100-yard range where he layed down slung up in prone then fired 5 shots to get a good zero with his aperture sights. Then told him how to calculate his "shooting boresight" by first running Sierra Bullets' software and using the same muzzle velocity as my rifle got with the same barrel length and load. After seeing how much the bullet dropped at 100 yards, he then calculated how much his rear sight moved impact at 800 yards per click based on the rifle's 35.5 inch sight radius. Next, he adjusted the rear sight down to move bullet impact at 100 yards down about two inches for bullet drop then another 1.6 inches for the front sight height above bore axis.</p><p></p><p>He calculated bullet drop at 800 yards for the atmospheric conditions at the range then adjusted the rear sight up for his calculated 800 yard zero. Estimated a slight correction for wind then fired his first shot since his first 5 getting a zero at 100 yards. It struck about 4 inches off from where he called the shot. Firing 15 shots at 800, 900 and 1000 yards, about 70% of them were in the 20 inch 10-ring, 25% in the 30" 9 ring and the remaining 5% in the 44" 8 ring.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bart B, post: 661033, member: 5302"] That depends on the marksmanship skills they have, their knowledge of ballistics and the requirements of doing well at long range. I've seen folks start out at 800 yards in their first Palma match. Having never shot any rifle other than a rimfire .22 at short range, they've layed down on the 800 yard line and busted their first centerfire round in their brand new rifle with brand new handloads. They had figured out that there was enough time after firing their first shot to quick look through their spotting scope and see where the bullet struck the dirt somewhere around their target. Make a sight adjustment and their next shot was on the 6 x 6 foot target paper. Couple more shots to zero up and they're off an running. No, they won't shoot scores as well as the best do, but I've seen them place in the top half of all the scores fired. And they've shot much better than some folks who've been doing it for years. Helped a guy build his first centerfire rifle some years ago. It was a Palma rifle made for 800 to 1000 yard competition. Showed him how to load his first ammo with my tools and he put together 50 rounds with new cases. Went to a 100-yard range where he layed down slung up in prone then fired 5 shots to get a good zero with his aperture sights. Then told him how to calculate his "shooting boresight" by first running Sierra Bullets' software and using the same muzzle velocity as my rifle got with the same barrel length and load. After seeing how much the bullet dropped at 100 yards, he then calculated how much his rear sight moved impact at 800 yards per click based on the rifle's 35.5 inch sight radius. Next, he adjusted the rear sight down to move bullet impact at 100 yards down about two inches for bullet drop then another 1.6 inches for the front sight height above bore axis. He calculated bullet drop at 800 yards for the atmospheric conditions at the range then adjusted the rear sight up for his calculated 800 yard zero. Estimated a slight correction for wind then fired his first shot since his first 5 getting a zero at 100 yards. It struck about 4 inches off from where he called the shot. Firing 15 shots at 800, 900 and 1000 yards, about 70% of them were in the 20 inch 10-ring, 25% in the 30" 9 ring and the remaining 5% in the 44" 8 ring. [/QUOTE]
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