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<blockquote data-quote="sigmatero" data-source="post: 176363" data-attributes="member: 9614"><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Sounds like the 6.5x284 is the hot ticket for long ranges. Unfortunately this might be too much solution for not enough problem for my needs since I'll also use the rifle for sage rats and want to be able to shoot repeatedly for longer periods of time without recoil fatigue. From what I've read the 6.5x284 is a pretty hot round in that department.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">So I'm still torn between .224 and .243. I need to get access to a ballistics program to play around with some numbers because the .224 75gr A-max has a BC=.435 and the .243 105gr A-max has a BC=.500 which is a fair bit higher (15%). So even at a 9% lower speed (say 3200fps with a .243AI vs 3500fps with a 22-243) the 6mm may do better than the .224 at the longer range. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">So that's why I was saying earlier that I would like to get a short/fat round to get more efficiency so that I can still shoot the same speeds but with less powder (and consequently a little less recoil, noise, and barrel fouling/burning).</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Anybody looked at the 6mm Thermos Bottle cartridge? Now that's cool! My guess is that this is the trend. Sort of like how fat shaped skis have changed the ski industry.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">BTW, anyone know of an online resource that lists noise and/or recoil values for different calibers (including wild cats)? </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Thanks to all for hanging in there with all these questions <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sigmatero, post: 176363, member: 9614"] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Sounds like the 6.5x284 is the hot ticket for long ranges. Unfortunately this might be too much solution for not enough problem for my needs since I’ll also use the rifle for sage rats and want to be able to shoot repeatedly for longer periods of time without recoil fatigue. From what I’ve read the 6.5x284 is a pretty hot round in that department.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]So I’m still torn between .224 and .243. I need to get access to a ballistics program to play around with some numbers because the .224 75gr A-max has a BC=.435 and the .243 105gr A-max has a BC=.500 which is a fair bit higher (15%). So even at a 9% lower speed (say 3200fps with a .243AI vs 3500fps with a 22-243) the 6mm may do better than the .224 at the longer range. [/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]So that’s why I was saying earlier that I would like to get a short/fat round to get more efficiency so that I can still shoot the same speeds but with less powder (and consequently a little less recoil, noise, and barrel fouling/burning).[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Anybody looked at the 6mm Thermos Bottle cartridge? Now that’s cool! My guess is that this is the trend. Sort of like how fat shaped skis have changed the ski industry.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman']BTW, anyone know of an online resource that lists noise and/or recoil values for different calibers (including wild cats)? [/FONT] [FONT='Times New Roman']Thanks to all for hanging in there with all these questions :)[/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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