bob1257
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What are you feelings on this topic ?
I think alot of guys claim mil spec few are, and if you dont buy one of them your buying CRAP!What are you feelings on this topic ?
What are you feelings on this topic ?
Pretty important stuff when you're locking out of a sub with SEAL Team 6, or doing a HALO insertion with an A Team from Fifth Group, but beyond that, I wouldn't sweat it too much for what most of us are using our AR's for. There's even a few MilSpec items that I'd actively avoid (chrome lined barrels come to mind) if I wanted an accurate rifle. There's any number of AR Service Rifles on the line at Perry every year that may not be MilSpec, but I'll guarantee you, most will shoot far better than any MilSpec GI rifle you'll ever find.
So true. Milspec is so dang over-rated in the AR-15 world. I wonder if people even understand what true milspec is, and how loose of a tolerance milspec allows. The truth is, that none of the semi automatic AR-15 rifles you can buy are truly milspec and many are built with better than milspec for quality purposes.
So you're saying there is a difference between the Colt you get at the gun shop, and the one the mil issues beside the fire control group? I would like to know what it is. Milspec is not just about tolerances, the materials used and the certifications of the manufacturing facility are a factor as well. Colt and LMT for instance are ISO 9000 certified and hold government contracts.
It's close in that it might have a few more mil spec rated parts than other manufacturers. The fact remains. As long as that Colt M4 clone has a semi-auto fire control group, a 16" barrel, and was not purchased to fulfill a government contract it is not a mil spec M4 no matter if they use 4150 chrome lined barrels or MIL-8625 Type 3 class 2 forged receivers and front site posts.
They are a bit closer since they ditched the shaved Bolt carriers, but it's still a civilian rifle no matter how you slice it. Will it function? No doubt, but will it function better than a Bushmaster or Stag M4 clone that costs $400 less? I highly doubt it.
There is a lot of good stuff out there that is not milspec. One needs to look beyond a fancy logo printed on the side, and consider the capability needed in their personal AR and either buy or build a rifle that meets the "myspec" category. The person buying the weapon will be happier and the savings in the pocket book can be used to buy a lot of ammo.
Again, I here what your saying but I'm trying to change your point of view on it I guess. When I buy a gun, I buy it for ever, no crap! I dont see why anyone would buy less than mil spec. I have 4 ARs now but its not my first 4, I have been down the non mil spec road and it just is not worth it! I owned DPMS, Stag, Wilson Combat and Olympic before I settled on DD, LMT and BCM I paid more for the 4 hobby guns and they were quite litterly half the weapon. I'm not a fan boy I wasted my money and I'm trying to stear guys down the right path to a quality weapon.
Have you seen this its a crowning endorsement of DD form a former Delta operator. I know for a fact that the first 3 I owned would not do this. My wifes duty rifle is a DD and I would not trust her life to anything less.
Aimpoint is always worth the money did you see they now have a 2MOA T1.Great video! I think I'm more impressed with the Aimpoint! DD has come a long way since they started producing.
That Aimpoint is going on my next battle rifle for sure.