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Zeiss Rapid Z 800 & 1000 scopes for M1A (M21) .308 UPDATE
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<blockquote data-quote="G-gear" data-source="post: 372644" data-attributes="member: 10370"><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> <span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">My Springfield M1A (M21) can group well under an inch with 168 SMKs, Lapua brass, CCI 34 primers, and 40.5 grs. of H4895. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I haven't tried past 100 yards yet, but, since I've been looking at buying a Zeiss Conquest Rapid Z 800 or Z 1000 scope, the dope on their website has caused me to recently write the following:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">'Been doing some hunting for the best scope for my Springfield M1A (M21). </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><a href="http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/36_41" target="_blank"><span style="color: #551011">Springfield Armory Rifles</span></a></strong> </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">gun)</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">ZEISS RAPID Z 1000 RETICLE <strong>vs. </strong>RAPID Z 800 RETICLE</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Both are around $925</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">And both are 4<strong>.</strong>5-14x50</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span><a href="http://www.zeiss.de/C1256BCF0020BE5F/Contents-Frame/E34E4125AA548D6685256BCF0061320D" target="_blank"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #551011">http://www.zeiss.de/C1256BCF0020BE5F/Contents-Frame/E34E4125AA548D6685256BCF0061320D</span></span></span></strong></a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Note: </strong>Please enter your information into our </span></span><a href="http://www.zeiss.com/C1256BCF0020BE5F/ContentsWWWIntern/46CBCEF61DEF2B88852574F700589D31" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #551011"><strong>Rapid-Z Calculator</strong></span></span></span></a><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"> to ensure that you make the best possible reticle selection </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">based on your caliber, bullet, hunting conditions and location.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">According to their calculator <u>for the Rapid Z 1000</u> (designed for the .308 Match ammo): </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">This IS the value for .308, Sierra 168-gr. MK (BC =.462), </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Velocity: 2,550 fps,</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Elevation: 4,500 ft. ASL</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Temp: 80 degrees F</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>The Rapid Z 1000</strong>:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With their calculator, and the scope power ring set to 11<strong>.</strong>8x (12 power):</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">*Optimize Power for: Bar No. 10 - Distance 1,000.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">They say to zero dead-on at 500 yards with the Bar 5. (Bar 5 is the Center Crosshair.) </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Easier way: To zero Bar 5 @ 100-yards: </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">On 11<strong>.</strong>8x (12 power): make bullet impact 11<strong>.</strong>87" high @ 100 yards (above Bar 5 - Center Crosshair).</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Then this will happen:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">At Bar 1, the bullet will impact at 139 yards - (and you can roughly zero at 139 yards with Bar 1, on 11.8x (<u>12 power</u>). </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(Bars 1 - 4 are above the center crosshair Bar 5.)</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 2 = 218 yards</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 3 = 313</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 4 = 404</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 5 = 500</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 6 = 597</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 7 = 695</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 8 = 796</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 9 = 897</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 10 = 1,000 yards</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">This is seemingly unbeatable.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Now, with the <strong>Rapid Z 800</strong>:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With the M1A, same load, they say to put the power ring at 7<strong>.</strong>45 power. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">*Optimize Power for: Bar No. 8 - Distance 800.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Sight in at 1<strong>.</strong>77" high @ 100 yards for a 200 yard zero (Center Crosshairs - call it Bar 1). </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">(All other Bars are below the center crosshairs - Bar 1.)</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Watch it fall into place:</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">At Bar 2 (an unmarked bar), bullet will impact at 295 yards. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 4 = 395 yards</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 5 = 495</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 6 = 596</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 7 = 698</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Bar 8 = 800 yards</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I know it's not a 1,000 yard reticle - but 'tis rather versatile anyway...</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> So, I'm deciding on which to choose. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">More field of view with the power ring set at 7<strong>.</strong>45x with the Z 800, than at 11<strong>.</strong>8x on the Z 1000.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">And they say the Z 800 is intended for other calibers; but, look what it does for the .308!</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">But, if you definitely need it backed-off at the lowest 4<strong>.</strong>5 power also, then the Z 800 will work for both close-quarter, and long-range work. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">At 4<strong>.</strong>5 power, just use the center crosshairs for 0-300 yards - then for precision: Zoom to 7<strong>.</strong>45x for 200-800+yards. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Q.</span></strong> What would the Z 1000 do at 4<strong>.</strong>5 power? - when it is set up for all ranges (100-1000) at 11<strong>.</strong>8 power? </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">A.</span></strong> Dead-on at 500-yards <strong>ONLY</strong> - Center Crosshairs - Bar 5. (Bar 5 impacts 11.87" high @ 100 yards on 11<strong>.</strong>8x. -Would need to test point of impact of Bars 1-4 on 4<strong>.</strong>5x ).</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Maybe we can't have our <em>convenient</em> cake, and eat it too. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">So, for me, THE DECISION IS: <span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><em><span style="font-size: 18px">Z 800 !</span></em></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong><em></em></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The Z 800 is more <em>traditional</em> and more <em>useful </em>under stress. Your short-range field of view (FOV) and accuracy (at 4<strong>.</strong>5 power) could mean everything.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I'd stress more over the <em>up-close and personal</em> - than sweat the remaining 200 yards down range to the magic 1,000 marker.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">And, I could live with the Z 800 at 7<strong>.</strong>45x to be sure for 0-800+yards. -You know what it's gonna do on 4<strong>.</strong>5x and 7<strong>.</strong>45x <strong>before</strong> you ever mount the scope! </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">With the Z 800, at <strong>ANY</strong> needed magnification (4<strong>.</strong>5x - 14x), with the center crosshairs, the bullet will still impact 1<strong>.</strong>77" high @ 100-yards, and will still be absolute bullseye at 200-yards!</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">But, for a dedicated Long Range benchrest set-up - or if you don't mind having it at 11<strong>.</strong>8 power all of the time, the Z 1000 bullseyes scratches the 100 to 1,000-yard itch.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New 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9973</span></span></span></strong></a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><strong>Zeiss Rapid Z 800</strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New 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</strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span><a href="http://www.newcon-optik.com/lrb7x50.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #551011"><strong>http://www.newcon-optik.com/lrb7x50.html</strong></span></span></span></a></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Unbelievable? </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Almost. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span 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[QUOTE="G-gear, post: 372644, member: 10370"] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]My Springfield M1A (M21) can group well under an inch with 168 SMKs, Lapua brass, CCI 34 primers, and 40.5 grs. of H4895. I haven't tried past 100 yards yet, but, since I've been looking at buying a Zeiss Conquest Rapid Z 800 or Z 1000 scope, the dope on their website has caused me to recently write the following: [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]'Been doing some hunting for the best scope for my Springfield M1A (M21). [B][URL="http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/36_41"][COLOR=#551011]Springfield Armory Rifles[/COLOR][/URL][/B] gun) ZEISS RAPID Z 1000 RETICLE [B]vs. [/B]RAPID Z 800 RETICLE [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Both are around $925 And both are 4[B].[/B]5-14x50 [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://www.zeiss.de/C1256BCF0020BE5F/Contents-Frame/E34E4125AA548D6685256BCF0061320D"][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#551011]http://www.zeiss.de/C1256BCF0020BE5F/Contents-Frame/E34E4125AA548D6685256BCF0061320D[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/URL] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][B]Note: [/B]Please enter your information into our [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://www.zeiss.com/C1256BCF0020BE5F/ContentsWWWIntern/46CBCEF61DEF2B88852574F700589D31"][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][COLOR=#551011][B]Rapid-Z Calculator[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] to ensure that you make the best possible reticle selection based on your caliber, bullet, hunting conditions and location. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]According to their calculator [U]for the Rapid Z 1000[/U] (designed for the .308 Match ammo): [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]This IS the value for .308, Sierra 168-gr. MK (BC =.462), [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Velocity: 2,550 fps,[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Elevation: 4,500 ft. ASL[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Temp: 80 degrees F[/SIZE][/FONT] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][B]The Rapid Z 1000[/B]: With their calculator, and the scope power ring set to 11[B].[/B]8x (12 power): *Optimize Power for: Bar No. 10 - Distance 1,000. [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]They say to zero dead-on at 500 yards with the Bar 5. (Bar 5 is the Center Crosshair.) [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Easier way: To zero Bar 5 @ 100-yards: [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]On 11[B].[/B]8x (12 power): make bullet impact 11[B].[/B]87" high @ 100 yards (above Bar 5 - Center Crosshair).[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Then this will happen:[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]At Bar 1, the bullet will impact at 139 yards - (and you can roughly zero at 139 yards with Bar 1, on 11.8x ([U]12 power[/U]). (Bars 1 - 4 are above the center crosshair Bar 5.) Bar 2 = 218 yards Bar 3 = 313[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Bar 4 = 404 Bar 5 = 500 Bar 6 = 597 Bar 7 = 695 Bar 8 = 796 Bar 9 = 897 Bar 10 = 1,000 yards This is seemingly unbeatable. Now, with the [B]Rapid Z 800[/B]: With the M1A, same load, they say to put the power ring at 7[B].[/B]45 power. [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]*Optimize Power for: Bar No. 8 - Distance 800.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] Sight in at 1[B].[/B]77" high @ 100 yards for a 200 yard zero (Center Crosshairs - call it Bar 1). [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3](All other Bars are below the center crosshairs - Bar 1.) [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Watch it fall into place: At Bar 2 (an unmarked bar), bullet will impact at 295 yards. Bar 4 = 395 yards Bar 5 = 495 Bar 6 = 596 Bar 7 = 698 Bar 8 = 800 yards I know it's not a 1,000 yard reticle - but 'tis rather versatile anyway... :rolleyes: So, I'm deciding on which to choose. More field of view with the power ring set at 7[B].[/B]45x with the Z 800, than at 11[B].[/B]8x on the Z 1000. And they say the Z 800 is intended for other calibers; but, look what it does for the .308! But, if you definitely need it backed-off at the lowest 4[B].[/B]5 power also, then the Z 800 will work for both close-quarter, and long-range work. At 4[B].[/B]5 power, just use the center crosshairs for 0-300 yards - then for precision: Zoom to 7[B].[/B]45x for 200-800+yards. [B][SIZE=4]Q.[/SIZE][/B] What would the Z 1000 do at 4[B].[/B]5 power? - when it is set up for all ranges (100-1000) at 11[B].[/B]8 power? [B][SIZE=4]A.[/SIZE][/B] Dead-on at 500-yards [B]ONLY[/B] - Center Crosshairs - Bar 5. (Bar 5 impacts 11.87" high @ 100 yards on 11[B].[/B]8x. -Would need to test point of impact of Bars 1-4 on 4[B].[/B]5x ).[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] Maybe we can't have our [I]convenient[/I] cake, and eat it too. :D So, for me, THE DECISION IS: [SIZE=4][B][I][SIZE=5]Z 800 ![/SIZE] [/I][/B][/SIZE] The Z 800 is more [I]traditional[/I] and more [I]useful [/I]under stress. Your short-range field of view (FOV) and accuracy (at 4[B].[/B]5 power) could mean everything. I'd stress more over the [I]up-close and personal[/I] - than sweat the remaining 200 yards down range to the magic 1,000 marker. And, I could live with the Z 800 at 7[B].[/B]45x to be sure for 0-800+yards. -You know what it's gonna do on 4[B].[/B]5x and 7[B].[/B]45x [B]before[/B] you ever mount the scope! [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]With the Z 800, at [B]ANY[/B] needed magnification (4[B].[/B]5x - 14x), with the center crosshairs, the bullet will still impact 1[B].[/B]77" high @ 100-yards, and will still be absolute bullseye at 200-yards! [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]But, for a dedicated Long Range benchrest set-up - or if you don't mind having it at 11[B].[/B]8 power all of the time, the Z 1000 bullseyes scratches the 100 to 1,000-yard itch. [/SIZE][/FONT][I][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]G-gear [/SIZE][/FONT][/I][EMAIL="chris_59@q.com"][B][I][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#551011]chris_59@q.com[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/I][/B][/EMAIL][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]You can check-out their reticles here: [B]Zeiss Rapid Z 1000[/B] [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/553441-USA/Zeiss_52_14_90_9973_4_5_14x50_AO_MC_Conquest.html"][B][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#551011]Zeiss | 4.5-14x50 AO MC Conquest Riflescope | 52 14 90 9973[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/URL] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][B]Zeiss Rapid Z 800[/B] [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=Zeiss+4.5-14x50+++800&N=0&InitialSearch=yes"][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#551011][B]Zeiss 4.5-14x50 800[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][B]LRB 7x50 laser rangefinder binoculars [/B] [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://www.newcon-optik.com/lrb7x50.html"][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#551011][B]http://www.newcon-optik.com/lrb7x50.html[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Unbelievable? Almost. :) [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://www.newcon-optik.com/Specs/lrb7x50.pdf"][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#551011][B]http://www.newcon-optik.com/Specs/lrb7x50.pdf[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL] [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [/SIZE][/FONT] [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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