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Its no different then someone making 75,000 a year and paying in 30,000 in taxes vrs someone 300,000 paying in 150,000. Except California gets a **** ton of kick backs. It is its own economy with how many people live here but it’s financially in the whole. Registration for car ranges 700-900$ a year here you also get luxury taxed. Gas here has 1.18 in taxes a lone. But broke ****** roads ****** infrastructure
What some people don't think of is for every dollar that is sent to the feds the majority of it is spent before it gets back to the states. There are costs for every dollar sent from the states to the federal government including but not limited to payroll for all that touch it. The average federal employee costs the taxpayer over $100k with benefits/taxes/comp insurance,etc. It takes tens of thousands of these employees to administer the money and send it back to the states. It is then funneled back through more employees to get it to the local government. It is then funneled through the local government and there are costs associated with that. If the taxes were all just sent to the states it takes the largest cost to the taxpayer out of the equation. Plain an simple it is a scam and it is not how the federal government was meant to operate. There is no reason money should be leaving the states other than border protection, military, etc.

Another issue is all the government agencies are doubled up. For instance the feds have the dept of education and each state has the same, EPA, HHS, etc. It is all one big ponzi scheme and the useful idiots some of which have been commenting here keep the scheme alive because there are those paying into the system that get more out then they pay in so they are happy with it.
 

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Ok Jim...

Best of luck to you and your ideals.

"Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" Mark Twain

Tell yourself that you won. Put that gold star on the calendar on the fridge. I tried to step away nicely but you just keep on and on and on without somehow bringing anything to the discussion of any relevance. I understand that you and your kind are afraid....I get it. People lash out when they are afraid. Don't be! Everything happens for a reason and come November you will see what the reason is.
 

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Ok Jim...

Best of luck to you and your ideals.

"Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" Mark Twain

Tell yourself that you won. Put that gold star on the calendar on the fridge. I tried to step away nicely but you just keep on and on and on without somehow bringing anything to the discussion of any relevance. I understand that you and your kind are afraid....I get it. People lash out when they are afraid. Don't be! Everything happens for a reason and come November you will see what the reason is.
Go to post #19. Called it! 🤣 He is a troll and probably doesn't hunt or own a gun. Life is better when you hit the troll repellent button.
 

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People in this country think the universe revolves around the United States. We are a global economy. Trump inherited a growing economy which continued to grow by leaps and bounds right up until his last year. 2020 flushed his entire term down the toilet. Trump lovers want to give him a pass on the last year of his administration. It does not work that way. He was in charge. He had no control over whether the pandemic hit but he was warned that something was coming. The government was prepared for this right up until the point he took office. He and his staff thought pandemics were a joke which is really stupid considering all the ones we had in the recent past. He politicized it and made it worse. He called it a hoax being perpetrated by the democrats and all of his blind followers jumped on board. Has any other president in history ever politicized a pandemic? I can't think of any. Making it political was the absolute worst thing he could have done but its all he knows. He was more worried about deflecting blame than addressing the issue. 2nd was putting Jared in charge. He left the country in a shambles. Biden inherited a collapsing economy. Everything we are experiencing now is a direct result of what occurred in 2020 under Trump's watch. Was all of that Trumps fault? Well, if this is all Bidens fault then Trump was completely responsible for everything that occurred in 2020. You can't shut down the global economy for a year and not expect to have long term effects. Its common sense. It doesn't take an intelligent person to understand this but apparently it does to accept it. If Trump had actually won in 2020 and was president today, we would still be experiencing this and his supporters would be blaming the pandemic and somehow work in that its all the democrats fault.
I think you need a hobby other than still thinking about Trump. I notice most Democrats are fixated on Trump after two years of Brandon screwing up the country. I suspect it's cause there concerned he might throw his hat back in the ring and fix all that Brandon has wrecked. Can't blame him for wanting to show little Joe how this works. After all, the media handed Joey the presidency. Suppressing all his and his kids skeletons. Amazing how that works for the Democrats. Seems like an unfair advantage until you think about it. Who'd really want the media and all their lies in bed with them. The Dems of course. Can't win a fight fairly and never have. Great legacy.
 

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. The reason there have not been any new refineries built is due to federal air quality regulations, that have only gotten stricter every decades. In other words you can not get the permits to build a grass roots refinery. There is new technology that meets the air standards and we will see new refineries being built in the near future. A crude oil refinery is not a simple undertaking and takes 2 to 3 years to bring on line, they are huge.
I work for a copper mining company. It is the same **** story. There hasn't been a new smelter built in the U.S. in decades, and there probably never will be again. Meanwhile, China is or has recently built many copper smelters. The EPA regulations are such that, a few years ago our company's smelter captured 97% of the particulates, and to appease the EPA, we spent a billion dollars the last few years to scrub an additional 2% . So now we capture 99% of the particulates before they leave the stack. ( You read that right, a billion with a B to capture a scant 2 % more). When you drive up to our smelter, it looks like it is shut down, but it is running full bore. Meanwhile the smelters in China are belching smoke like Cheech and Chong at a Led Zeppelin concert. Because their leaders tell the greenies to go you know what themselves. They are all about effeciency. Copper is a STRATEGIC metal, vitally crucial to the economy and the defense of the country. Our "leadership" would probably be happy to see all production go offshore.
 

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I work for a copper mining company. It is the same **** story. There hasn't been a new smelter built in the U.S. in decades, and there probably never will be again. Meanwhile, China is or has recently built many copper smelters. The EPA regulations are such that, a few years ago our company's smelter captured 97% of the particulates, and to appease the EPA, we spent a billion dollars the last few years to scrub an additional 2% . So now we capture 99% of the particulates before they leave the stack. ( You read that right, a billion with a B to capture a scant 2 % more). When you drive up to our smelter, it looks like it is shut down, but it is running full bore. Meanwhile the smelters in China are belching smoke like Cheech and Chong at a Led Zeppelin concert. Because their leaders tell the greenies to go you know what themselves. They are all about effeciency. Copper is a STRATEGIC metal, vitally crucial to the economy and the defense of the country. Our "leadership" would probably be happy to see all production go offshore.
Copper
Lead
Steel
Aluminum

Same sad story
 

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Ok Jim...

Best of luck to you and your ideals.

"Never argue with an idiot, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" Mark Twain

Tell yourself that you won. Put that gold star on the calendar on the fridge. I tried to step away nicely but you just keep on and on and on without somehow bringing anything to the discussion of any relevance. I understand that you and your kind are afraid....I get it. People lash out when they are afraid. Don't be! Everything happens for a reason and come November you will see what the reason is.

I try not to but sometimes its very difficult.

You tried to step away nicely? The last times I did add relevance to the discussion, you responded with monumental blunders. Pardon me for pointing out the irony of you calling me stupid. You poor victim.
 
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Yup but china is better huh jim
In some cases like solar

This could have been the US but we decided fossil fuels were too important

 

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I think you need a hobby other than still thinking about Trump. I notice most Democrats are fixated on Trump after two years of Brandon screwing up the country. I suspect it's cause there concerned he might throw his hat back in the ring and fix all that Brandon has wrecked. Can't blame him for wanting to show little Joe how this works. After all, the media handed Joey the presidency. Suppressing all his and his kids skeletons. Amazing how that works for the Democrats. Seems like an unfair advantage until you think about it. Who'd really want the media and all their lies in bed with them. The Dems of course. Can't win a fight fairly and never have. Great legacy.
Trump is flatulence in the wind. Everyday he becomes less and less relevant.
 
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Trump is flatulence in the wind. Everyday he becomes less and less relevant. Democrats are just tired of Biden getting blamed for a mess that Trump started.
Trump got blamed for most things Obama F'd up. I guess thats different right ? Let's face it, Democrats are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. My body my choice didn't matter when the government mandated the vaccine but suddenly it applies to abortion. ***. You guys are all the same. Make up my mind. Biden HAS F'd up EVERYTHING good that Trump gave us. PERIOD. No BS there.
 

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Its no different then someone making 75,000 a year and paying in 30,000 in taxes vrs someone 300,000 paying in 150,000. Except California gets a **** ton of kick backs. It is its own economy with how many people live here but it’s financially in the whole. Registration for car ranges 700-900$ a year here you also get luxury taxed. Gas here has 1.18 in taxes a lone. But broke ****** roads ****** infrastructure
Well, one of those folks is paying 40% and one is paying 50%, so there's that difference. Beyond that, I'm not sure what your point is. CA sends more to the federal pot of money than it gets back, period. That extra money goes to pay for the federal services that are provided to states that don't pay for what they receive. Those states are nearly, if not completely, red ones. That's just facts. And facts don't give a dayum about your politics. But boy do "politics" hate facts.....
 
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