Wild Monkey
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View attachment 163466 View attachment 163467 View attachment 163466 View attachment 163467 View attachment 163466 Forming 300 RUM brass down to a lower or shorter Cartridge: For this Example the Wildcat is called the "7mm Win Mag". With a Case is 2.5" long. 1st Trim the Brass to Length. I use a derelict .375 RUM FL Die and Move the shoulder for forming. It's important to establish the shoulder location on the Brass with a die that uses *30 or less shoulder angle. The 7WM uses the 7WSM *35 Shoulder located @ 2.018" high. .375 RUM @ 2.387" subtract the 2.018" = .369" trim off bottom of DIE ( a little more is better).
To step the Neck down I use a Lyman .325 WSM FL Die, then take it to 7mm. It's important to remember once you form the *35 Shoulder Angle, you don't attempt to move the Shoulder Down further, - as this will crush the Soft Norma Brass. Even attempting to move the shoulder after taking the brass down to 7mm can crush or buckle the case. If you attempt to form the shoulder with a Wider Die than the Donor Brass it will Balloon out - & RUM die has a good supporting shoulder for this as the widths are the same before forming. All Brass prep after can use standard WSM Dies & Prep with the longer Neck.
There are negatives to using this Die as a Forming die is better, this particular die is an RCBS Die and will need to be polished out to a larger I.D. towards the center of the Die. The Un-fire formed example starts with a Shoulder that's .530" Wide, which in all practicality duplicates the Dakota & Nosler Shoulder Widths. The Wildcat example has the same Shoulder location as the 33 Nosler Brass to further emphasize how useful this process can be.
To assist Reload'rs having difficulty forming Cases & Crushing Shoulders. I'll bet there are lots of Old Timers that know this trick and probably just got tired of explaining it. This is my Hobby and by No Means can I give examples of Perfect Scientific Data, so please be forthcoming with positive feedback keeping that in mind, thanks. These items listed are only examples and I have no affiliation with any Manufacturers. (Photo for Reference only I make no claim to initial Tradesman who drafted it.)
To step the Neck down I use a Lyman .325 WSM FL Die, then take it to 7mm. It's important to remember once you form the *35 Shoulder Angle, you don't attempt to move the Shoulder Down further, - as this will crush the Soft Norma Brass. Even attempting to move the shoulder after taking the brass down to 7mm can crush or buckle the case. If you attempt to form the shoulder with a Wider Die than the Donor Brass it will Balloon out - & RUM die has a good supporting shoulder for this as the widths are the same before forming. All Brass prep after can use standard WSM Dies & Prep with the longer Neck.
There are negatives to using this Die as a Forming die is better, this particular die is an RCBS Die and will need to be polished out to a larger I.D. towards the center of the Die. The Un-fire formed example starts with a Shoulder that's .530" Wide, which in all practicality duplicates the Dakota & Nosler Shoulder Widths. The Wildcat example has the same Shoulder location as the 33 Nosler Brass to further emphasize how useful this process can be.
To assist Reload'rs having difficulty forming Cases & Crushing Shoulders. I'll bet there are lots of Old Timers that know this trick and probably just got tired of explaining it. This is my Hobby and by No Means can I give examples of Perfect Scientific Data, so please be forthcoming with positive feedback keeping that in mind, thanks. These items listed are only examples and I have no affiliation with any Manufacturers. (Photo for Reference only I make no claim to initial Tradesman who drafted it.)
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