I just wanted to mention also though most know that velocity and pressure can increase/decrease depending on the thickness/weight of the brass used. I used 230gn brass on the above ladder test with the 7 rem mag. Had the brass been 20gn lighter you would have seen lower velocities or if heavier brass higher velocities/pressure. I was hoping to find Norma brass which often is lighter in weight and normally very consistent weight wise and Lapua doesn't make 7mm Rem mag brass so no option there and I haven't seen any 7 rem mag norma brass available in months. But the Winchester is tougher for sure than Norma but if being used for longer range and higher accuracy you must at least weight sort it and many will also turn the necks which I also may end up doing with the Win brass.